Shivastorm_88
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The title says it all, I've never really been in a relationship before, so any pointers, things to be on the look-out, etc, would be appreciated.
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
I've never been in a real relationship before, got any tips?
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"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Deadly_Ripped
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Try one, even if she's not ideal. Keep things casual and feel it out. If you wait until you find a woman who's worth marrying before you start dating, then you'll definitely screw it up big time. Relationship skills are like social skills - they take practice.
TheAsianLoverReturns
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You'll want to marry the first decent girl that will have you.
Then she'll break up with you after 3 months.
Then you'll be ready to learn. Or do the same thing over again.
Then she'll break up with you after 3 months.
Then you'll be ready to learn. Or do the same thing over again.
doctorj
Don Juan
same boat as the OP, I'm 24
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
We need to narrow this down and divide and conquer.
Are you attracting women?
Are you getting phone numbers?
Are you getting dates?
Are you getting second dates?
Are you kissing them?
Are you having sex with any of them?
Are you satisfying them sexually?
When all of those things happen the relationship will be automatic (she'll insist).
Are you attracting women?
Are you getting phone numbers?
Are you getting dates?
Are you getting second dates?
Are you kissing them?
Are you having sex with any of them?
Are you satisfying them sexually?
When all of those things happen the relationship will be automatic (she'll insist).
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