Shivastorm_88
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The title says it all, I've never really been in a relationship before, so any pointers, things to be on the look-out, etc, would be appreciated.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
I've never been in a real relationship before, got any tips?
- Thread starter Shivastorm_88
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"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Deadly_Ripped
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Try one, even if she's not ideal. Keep things casual and feel it out. If you wait until you find a woman who's worth marrying before you start dating, then you'll definitely screw it up big time. Relationship skills are like social skills - they take practice.
TheAsianLoverReturns
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You'll want to marry the first decent girl that will have you.
Then she'll break up with you after 3 months.
Then you'll be ready to learn. Or do the same thing over again.
Then she'll break up with you after 3 months.
Then you'll be ready to learn. Or do the same thing over again.
doctorj
Don Juan
same boat as the OP, I'm 24
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
We need to narrow this down and divide and conquer.
Are you attracting women?
Are you getting phone numbers?
Are you getting dates?
Are you getting second dates?
Are you kissing them?
Are you having sex with any of them?
Are you satisfying them sexually?
When all of those things happen the relationship will be automatic (she'll insist).
Are you attracting women?
Are you getting phone numbers?
Are you getting dates?
Are you getting second dates?
Are you kissing them?
Are you having sex with any of them?
Are you satisfying them sexually?
When all of those things happen the relationship will be automatic (she'll insist).
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