Byezbozhniy
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Fight Club, maybe?
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
I've lost everything
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"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.
I’ve obviously touched a nerve. As a former drug counselor all I can tell you is being an ****hole is part of the treatment. Recovery from this disease is very, very hard. Some of the same “druggies” I was an ***hole to 20 years ago still contact me today. These guys hated me with a passion. But now I’m welcome in their home.KarmaSutra said:
The OP has abandoned this thread so I speak to those who were offended. If you go to treatment you will meet me, or someone like me. At first, you will hate my f*n guts. But later, things change….if you are successful. Getting your life back involves pain and suffering. No other way to put it.
Yes, I am an old guy who feels young, and has had the benefit of several careers and would like to share what I have learned. But yes, I am certainly an ***hole, and the last time I was nice was 1974.
prairiedog24
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Nobody was rude in this thread until you showed up. Behave yourself please.Byezbozhniy said:
I may be struggling financially, but I feel the best way through this is to put the court case off as long as possible to prove that I have recovered. I have been sober for 5 months now and have become a resident assistant for the treatment center and living in a drug and alcohol free environment. In fact, I have no desire to ever drink again. I have let it ruin my life.
As for finding the root, well that would be shyness. I would use alcohol as a social crutch. I wouldn't drink that often, but when I did, I binged, and it was only out in the bars (never at home). So, you could say I was a binge drinker.
Anyway, I have a court date on the 19th, and I'm not sure how it's going to go, but I'm willing to put it off and prove that I've been cure of my illness.
As for finding the root, well that would be shyness. I would use alcohol as a social crutch. I wouldn't drink that often, but when I did, I binged, and it was only out in the bars (never at home). So, you could say I was a binge drinker.
Anyway, I have a court date on the 19th, and I'm not sure how it's going to go, but I'm willing to put it off and prove that I've been cure of my illness.
omkara
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I am really impressed with the quality and depth of the posts on this thread. I have seen lots of internet forums, and there's very few times that people actually talk about s*** like this. And even then a lot of times you get the old cliches, fake positivity, and no real insights.
To the OP: thanks for sharing your story. It has given people an opportunity to share some wisdom, and for other people who are down on their luck to benefit from it.
To the OP: thanks for sharing your story. It has given people an opportunity to share some wisdom, and for other people who are down on their luck to benefit from it.
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
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I've walked in your shoes brother and I know all too well that it can go either way. Either easier for you in the short term or life changing in the long term.
The choice is whether or not you want to live in stagnancy and complacency or choose the harder, but much more beneficial, path and go at it on your own with nothing tying you down.
I fvcking did it:
How I got my goddamned balls to live:
You're never alone brother.
The choice is whether or not you want to live in stagnancy and complacency or choose the harder, but much more beneficial, path and go at it on your own with nothing tying you down.
I fvcking did it:
How I got my goddamned balls to live:
You're never alone brother.
I admire the courage to tell your story. I've lost everything I've owned twice. I wasnt in legal trouble, or addicted to anything though (except pvssy, in one case), but I have had to start over. I was heartbroken once, and on the verge of being suicidal, and almost went and did stupid shyt like you did. I dont know if you're an addict, or you just lost your mind after your divorce, cuz it happens sometimes, but life goes on.
It's surprising how quick you can build a new life after you hit your lows.
Some guy answered my ad looking for a singer once. He didnt work out as a singer, and he kind of freaked me out, cuz he just got out of prison after five years. He's a little short guy. He said he got jumped by three guys in LA, and from defending himself, ended up hurting one of them really bad, so of course, our fine legal system threw him in the slammer. Anyway, the guy was the hardest worker I've ever seen. he took minimum wage jobs, worked overtime, bought some silk screening stuff, and started a small company, met a girl, married her, saved up enough to buy a motorcycle, and put a down payment on a house, and had a baby girl. This was all in three years. I run into him now and again, and I can tell he's not on any drugs or anything. He's totally legit, and works his ass off. He was in a worse place than you. brother. I admire the shyt out of him for what he's accomplished from nothing, in so little time.
And you can bash religion, and Jesus all day long, but it helps a LOT of people get though hard times, even if it isnt real, so dont bash it. Belief in something in and of itself, can be a very positive influence on someones life. If people turn to Jesus, and make something out of there lives, when they had nothing, (and I've seen plenty of people do it) how can it possibly be a bad thing, even if you dont believe in it? Worse case scenario: they followed the words of someone who never existed, and it completely changed their life for the better. I dont give a fvck what you believe, if something helps you turn you life around, it is a good thing, and its retarded to think otherwise.
It's surprising how quick you can build a new life after you hit your lows.
Some guy answered my ad looking for a singer once. He didnt work out as a singer, and he kind of freaked me out, cuz he just got out of prison after five years. He's a little short guy. He said he got jumped by three guys in LA, and from defending himself, ended up hurting one of them really bad, so of course, our fine legal system threw him in the slammer. Anyway, the guy was the hardest worker I've ever seen. he took minimum wage jobs, worked overtime, bought some silk screening stuff, and started a small company, met a girl, married her, saved up enough to buy a motorcycle, and put a down payment on a house, and had a baby girl. This was all in three years. I run into him now and again, and I can tell he's not on any drugs or anything. He's totally legit, and works his ass off. He was in a worse place than you. brother. I admire the shyt out of him for what he's accomplished from nothing, in so little time.
And you can bash religion, and Jesus all day long, but it helps a LOT of people get though hard times, even if it isnt real, so dont bash it. Belief in something in and of itself, can be a very positive influence on someones life. If people turn to Jesus, and make something out of there lives, when they had nothing, (and I've seen plenty of people do it) how can it possibly be a bad thing, even if you dont believe in it? Worse case scenario: they followed the words of someone who never existed, and it completely changed their life for the better. I dont give a fvck what you believe, if something helps you turn you life around, it is a good thing, and its retarded to think otherwise.
I'm going to be really frank at this point. I'm a regular who has never missed a payment on anything. I don't much, and when I got in trouble I decided I'd never drink again. What I did was in complete panic, and my character can prove it. I'm not saying any of this to persuade anyone into thinking of me differently or change your thoughts of me.
What I'm trying to say is that the past few days I've been thinking some very bad thoughts. I feel like I can't go on any longer.
What I'm trying to say is that the past few days I've been thinking some very bad thoughts. I feel like I can't go on any longer.
"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"
You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.
For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.
Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.
The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.
Well, it has been an amasing turn around for me. I'm now in a high paying, high end position with a multi-billion dollar company. I also work on staff at the rehab center I went to. Along with that, I get free room and board. All I'm doing right now is stacking up money and paying off debt.
As far as women go, I became a very desperate creep, and ran off every woman I was envolved with. It was in direct correlation to all I was going through, but as soon as I started getting paid big money and was able to pay off the debt, my confidence grew, and now women are flocking to me again.
Now, as far as my charges go, I have no convictions yet, and everytime we go to court, my lawyer continues it to another date in order to come up with a resolution. Everytime it gets continued, the punished gets lighter and lighter. One day I believe it will all be dropped or reduced greatly, and I will be free to live fully again.
I just had to keep pushing through and keep trucking along. My life is better now and more fullfilling than before I ever got in trouble.
As far as women go, I became a very desperate creep, and ran off every woman I was envolved with. It was in direct correlation to all I was going through, but as soon as I started getting paid big money and was able to pay off the debt, my confidence grew, and now women are flocking to me again.
Now, as far as my charges go, I have no convictions yet, and everytime we go to court, my lawyer continues it to another date in order to come up with a resolution. Everytime it gets continued, the punished gets lighter and lighter. One day I believe it will all be dropped or reduced greatly, and I will be free to live fully again.
I just had to keep pushing through and keep trucking along. My life is better now and more fullfilling than before I ever got in trouble.
iliketennis
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hahahahah!!! what a quotegrinder said:
ThunderMaverick
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Congratulations rea! Only took less than a year to get your life on track and that's a testament to how hard you worked to become a better person.
I'm happy for you:cheer:
I'm happy for you:cheer:
Joe Stud
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u r an inspiration to us all! rep+
PrettyBoyA
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stay tough man. donald trump always talks about how most people crawl into a ball and cry for mommy when the pressure's on. don't be that guy. tough it out and don't feel sorry for yourself...
don't ever look at people around you and say 'oh he's got it lucky', just KNOW that some people have it worse off than you too. everyone gets dealt a certain hand, you just have to play it to the best of your abilities
edit: just read your update, awesome news dude!!! be proud of yourself for not crawling into a ball and giving up on life like most others would
don't ever look at people around you and say 'oh he's got it lucky', just KNOW that some people have it worse off than you too. everyone gets dealt a certain hand, you just have to play it to the best of your abilities
edit: just read your update, awesome news dude!!! be proud of yourself for not crawling into a ball and giving up on life like most others would
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
hexx
Don Juan
Learn from the past, excel in the present, shape the future.
EDIT: Good job...rea in the house kicking ass and taking names!
EDIT: Good job...rea in the house kicking ass and taking names!
So, here I am... DEBT FREE!!!! I did it. No forclosure, no bankruptcy, and no bad credit.
I still have charges pending, but everytime we go to court the charges become lesser and lesser. Eventually they'll give me a break.
I've been at my job for almost a year, and I've been moved into the lead on some pretty cool projects; however, they have become very stressful, but I can handle it.
Now for what this site is all about... Women! I have none. Not a single woman. Not a care in the world for one. Every time I get in trouble and end up with only my shirt on my back, it's because of a woman. The night I got in serious trouble, it was because of 2 women (best friends) I was hooking up with. I just don't need it right now, and that has changed my game a lot. The women seem to be coming to me now. Anyway, I digress...
Have a wonderful day!
I still have charges pending, but everytime we go to court the charges become lesser and lesser. Eventually they'll give me a break.
I've been at my job for almost a year, and I've been moved into the lead on some pretty cool projects; however, they have become very stressful, but I can handle it.
Now for what this site is all about... Women! I have none. Not a single woman. Not a care in the world for one. Every time I get in trouble and end up with only my shirt on my back, it's because of a woman. The night I got in serious trouble, it was because of 2 women (best friends) I was hooking up with. I just don't need it right now, and that has changed my game a lot. The women seem to be coming to me now. Anyway, I digress...
Have a wonderful day!
DonGorgon
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thats what happens when you cant afford a great lawyer.. the court system is all about money and connections.. so the poor get shafted
DonGorgon
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thats what happens when you cant afford a great lawyer.. the court system is all about money and connections.. so the poor get shafted
BadNews
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Congrats on taking control of your life Rea. Nice to hear a story like yours years after the fact. Don't forget, this is just beginning. Keep pushing and working hard on your life, you have many many great things to accomplish. Dont forget where you came from, dont lose sight of where you're going...and dont take anything for granted!
Best of luck buddy.
Best of luck buddy.
"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"
When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.
Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.
Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.
The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.