"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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I've been pursuing girls like crazy and they've been reciprocating my interest.

Accension

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I recently made a thread about how I thought that this whole game thing is very misleading: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174688

I've thought for a long time that it's quite AFC to really pursue girls.
Is this correct?
Because I've basically been texting, calling, sending E-mails and just showing them I want them - it's working.

However, shouldn't our theory be against this happening?
Because I've pretty much had a girl stay over at my house every night this week.
What the hell is going on. Am I no longer an AFC and this is why it's easy now?
This whole success thing is just as confusing to me as no success.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Because I've basically been texting, calling, sending E-mails and just showing them I want them - it's working.

However, shouldn't our theory be against this happening?
A lot of seduction ideas contradict each other. The trick is to learn when to use each one, and how to blend them. That's why you need the social calibration and the experience in the field.

In your case, you're saying (I think) that you should consider yourself the prize, be indifferent toward women, and make them chase you. Those ideas all have their value and their place but I don't think taking that approach strictly is going to work very well for most men. Because on the opposite side of it, men are the leaders and the hunters. They are the ones who initiate the interaction, that's what makes them men. That's what makes them masculine.

The vast majority of the time the guy who lays back and acts cool is going to get passed over for the bolder guy who approaches IMO.
 

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I agree with what's Zekko is saying. It's a matter of mixing/matching and social calibration.

And there comes a time that you will have to chase the girl. That's the entire idea of love, it's bi-directional. She shows affection towards you, and you return it. It's a matter of her chasing you, and you chasing her. If you only be all laid back and cool and unresponsive, she'll pass up on you and she'll go for another guy.

However, many guys who have problems with women are overly chasing the girl. In the initial scouting phase, the girl wants to see at her terms if she likes you, and you on your own terms to see if you like her. Go in too fast, and you'll scare her off. Come in laid back and chill, she'll notice you're not clingy and that you're cool and will allow it. And the moment she's hook onto you, she'll eventually expect you to seek contact too, because otherwise she will lose interest too.

It's a matter of a game. It's giving and taking. I still pursue the girl that I'm considering LTR material, but I will not give in to anything she wants from me or appear on demand. Yet I still show my affection and told her I'm in love with her as well.
 

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As i told you twice in the other thread - unless you're very good looking and/or have money/status - You're going to have a really hard time trying to get women to pursue you. Once you get a harem of women and a rep with women - THEN women MAY chase you (since you'll be too busy to chase them) but that's a long ways away from where most men on here are.

I have NEVER advocated sitting back and being passive about pursuing women. Nor have i seen that doctrine practiced on here. If you want her - GO FOR IT! Be sexual, let it be known that you're into her (without saying it if possible).... However, i think there's a thin line between pursuing and chasing. I don't think i ever chase women, because i think that's going all out. I put it out there, let them reciprocate to it, then build from there.... I don't push... but i don't expect her to pull.... i expect her to stand still while i walk into her.... if she backs up - then i pull back (sorry if this makes no sense lol)

Just follow the basic guidelines of not being clingy/needy, not letting her get away with disrespect, passing her sh!t tests, lead, punish bad behavior/reward good behavior, don't overtly try to be controlling, being ready to move on if needed.... and most of all: screening for what you're looking for!

And again, don't chase.... but it's fine to pursue....I refuse to chase. I will approach, I will show interest. But I will not play the “if you want me – chase me” game. Any woman playing that game is an AW. Field tested.
 

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SandHawk said:
However, many guys who have problems with women are overly chasing the girl. In the initial scouting phase, the girl wants to see at her terms if she likes you, and you on your own terms to see if you like her. Go in too fast, and you'll scare her off.

Unintentionally field-tested that this weekend. It doesn’t matter how high their initial IL is, come in over confident, thinking that the rules no longer apply, and before you know it… You are sitting at home alone with that “No Sh!t!” feeling.

Live and Learn
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Accension said:
I recently made a thread about how I thought that this whole game thing is very misleading: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=174688

I've thought for a long time that it's quite AFC to really pursue girls.
Is this correct?
Because I've basically been texting, calling, sending E-mails and just showing them I want them - it's working.

However, shouldn't our theory be against this happening?
Because I've pretty much had a girl stay over at my house every night this week.
What the hell is going on. Am I no longer an AFC and this is why it's easy now?
This whole success thing is just as confusing to me as no success.
Come back when you've had a relationship longer than 6 months.
 
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