"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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I'v been lying to her the whole time.

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Canadian Catnip

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I have a bit of a dilemma that I need some solid advice on.

As a RAFC I have been experimenting with meeting women and talking to them in order to improve in that area.

I have known this women for about a year now and we sometimes talk. She has a boyfriend and seems to be honestly in love with the guy. I have enjoyed our talks and sometimes have faked interest in what she talks about in order to become a better conversationalist.

Now she is getting closer to me, wanting to spend more time with me because she feels so close to me and believes that I understand her.

To be honest I had selfish motivations from the start when I talked with her, mainly I wanted to get comfortable talking to women. It's gotten a bit uncomfortable for me now when I realize my selfish motives. I did not find her interesting for herself, just that she was a women.

She believes I like her just for herself and I see it as a field experiment.

The closest I can think of is if you are friendly to someone you work with and they want to hang out with you after work and you are put in an awkward position of having to decline the offer because you are only being nice to the person because you have to work with them.

Any suggestions?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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j0n024

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I actually think your hurting yourself by declining the invite...It show's that your not going to fight for her attention and that you could care less about being with her WHICH will make her work for you more.

What I would do is if she invites you to some place go with her but try nothing just talk and have fun dont kino and dont show any sexual eyes ...maybe get her to talk about her problems after that she will probably put you in the friends zone and then smooth sailing...

Kinda weird that your trying to do the opposite of what most guys on here do lol.
 
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just convey the impression that you don't waste time hanging out with female friends. From what it sounds like, that's exactly what it would be -- a waste of time.

Tell her you're busy.
 
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