"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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it's not in my nature to make others to feel on "emotional rollercoaster"

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Personally, I've understood the theory!
But I'm still trying to understand where it's worth doing it in the first instance.

Should our life, as men, be focused on logic, because we want to be masculine and on top in our life, or shall we "lose" our logic because we need to work on the concept of getting a woman to feel the "emotional rollercoaster"?

It's easy for people like me to be diligent and disciplined for a goal.
But if I do let emotions into it, it will be hard and my focus will be lost.
It won't come naturally to me to make others to feel on "emotional rollercoaster" while, on the other hand, I do see many men who lacks discipline but have the skill to make women feel the rollercoaster. So this is the contrary of me.

So I wanted to ask if there are ways, that I still don't know about, to integrate that behavior into my logical, rational, male and masculine life.
 

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Dudes above get it.

The random non-siquitur crap you do that questions if she is the only one, drives women NUTS.
ADHD has its use(s) :p
 

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Personally, I've understood the theory!
But I'm still trying to understand where it's worth doing it in the first instance.

Should our life, as men, be focused on logic, because we want to be masculine and on top in our life, or shall we "lose" our logic because we need to work on the concept of getting a woman to feel the "emotional rollercoaster"?

It's easy for people like me to be diligent and disciplined for a goal.
But if I do let emotions into it, it will be hard and my focus will be lost.
It won't come naturally to me to make others to feel on "emotional rollercoaster" while, on the other hand, I do see many men who lacks discipline but have the skill to make women feel the rollercoaster. So this is the contrary of me.

So I wanted to ask if there are ways, that I still don't know about, to integrate that behavior into my logical, rational, male and masculine life.
Start by laying off the overthinking and constantly asking these weird questions, and instead going out into the sunlight and fresh air, and just being sociable. Not just with women, but with everyone you run into
 

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You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Like I said before, you need to have the emotional self-control to give her the emotional roller coaster. Don't get into the rollercoaster yourself. You're at the controls, not the passenger.
What @AmsterdamAssassin said is solid. I would also add that a man needs to learn how to separate work from pleasure and operate successfully in both worlds. Women are pleasure items.
This may also happen to you, but personally, I struggle to be in control.
How could you be in self control when a women is touching you to start sex, or viceversa?

Also, If I give her that emotional roller coaster, I would get to feel a rollecoaster too (like when you sends her dirt messages and pics, or when you do something exciting with her, or when you make the dominant men because she has passed your boundaries, or just when you're using manipulation over there). This is really hard to control for me.

I mean, could you manage to be in self control when having sex?
 
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Here's a whole video that does a good job of explaining how to give women a "positive" emotional roller coaster experience:
 

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This may also happen to you, but personally, I struggle to be in control.
How could you be in self control when a women is touching you to start sex, or viceversa?

Also, If I give her that emotional roller coaster, I would get to feel a rollecoaster too (like when you sends her dirt messages and pics, or when you do something exciting with her, or when you make the dominant men because she has passed your boundaries, or just when you're using manipulation over there). This is really hard to control for me.

I mean, could you manage to be in self control when having sex?
What?
Do you realise that your questions makes absolute no sense mate?

You should do some ground work still man. I firmly recommend you reading The DJ Bible and the Book of Pook 10 times over, instead of trying to grasp stuff that are still beyond your grasp.

If you don't have time to read, listen to this:


While doing so, follow this advice:

Start by laying off the overthinking and constantly asking these weird questions, and instead going out into the sunlight and fresh air, and just being sociable. Not just with women, but with everyone you run into

Good luck on the journey m8
 

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What?
Do you realise that your questions makes absolute no sense mate?

You should do some ground work still man. I firmly recommend you reading The DJ Bible and the Book of Pook 10 times over, instead of trying to grasp stuff that are still beyond your grasp.

If you don't have time to read, listen to this:


While doing so, follow this advice:




Good luck on the journey m8
Thanks for the advice, but you wrote those things assuming things wrongs, like I don't have a social life.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I haven’t assumed anything.

Much on the contrary, considering the fact that you don’t have time, as I’ve stated, I shared the audiobook version for you to listen while you are on your social activities.

Instead of being defensive, take the advice!
And please, listen to the ebook.

Two ears, one mouth.
Listen more, talk less.

Side note:
Although, now that you mentioned it, posting question after question on an online forum on dating does not give much of a social life vibe.
 

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Personally, I've understood the theory!
But I'm still trying to understand where it's worth doing it in the first instance.

Should our life, as men, be focused on logic, because we want to be masculine and on top in our life, or shall we "lose" our logic because we need to work on the concept of getting a woman to feel the "emotional rollercoaster"?

It's easy for people like me to be diligent and disciplined for a goal.
But if I do let emotions into it, it will be hard and my focus will be lost.
It won't come naturally to me to make others to feel on "emotional rollercoaster" while, on the other hand, I do see many men who lacks discipline but have the skill to make women feel the rollercoaster. So this is the contrary of me.

So I wanted to ask if there are ways, that I still don't know about, to integrate that behavior into my logical, rational, male and masculine life.
So you're saying you can't do both? Be both disciplined and emotional?
 

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Personally, I've understood the theory!
But I'm still trying to understand where it's worth doing it in the first instance.

Should our life, as men, be focused on logic, because we want to be masculine and on top in our life, or shall we "lose" our logic because we need to work on the concept of getting a woman to feel the "emotional rollercoaster"?

It's easy for people like me to be diligent and disciplined for a goal.
But if I do let emotions into it, it will be hard and my focus will be lost.
It won't come naturally to me to make others to feel on "emotional rollercoaster" while, on the other hand, I do see many men who lacks discipline but have the skill to make women feel the rollercoaster. So this is the contrary of me.

So I wanted to ask if there are ways, that I still don't know about, to integrate that behavior into my logical, rational, male and masculine life.
It's the opposite of what you're thinking. That so called emotional rollercoaster is a response to being more emotionally healthy and rational than she is.

I made a thread, which I talk about emotional vitality and the relationship between being rational and emotions.

Plinco's observations and thoughts | SoSuave Discussion Forum
 

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I think the roller coaster metaphor is dramatic. To the wrong person it can sound like a license for abuse. Just keep her on her toes.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Like I said before, you need to have the emotional self-control to give her the emotional roller coaster. Don't get into the rollercoaster yourself. You're at the controls, not the passenger.
The answer to this thread is this that Amsterdam just said.
 

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Like I said before, you need to have the emotional self-control to give her the emotional roller coaster. Don't get into the rollercoaster yourself. You're at the controls, not the passenger.
Some people are born with this skill, some other could learn it?
 

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Nobody is born with this 'skill'. Developing emotional self-control is part of maturing into adulthood.
A woman would enjoy this by being on the emotional rollercoaster but how/what the men, being in control, should feel like?
 

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Op. I actually read this thread title like: it's not in my nature to be emotionally stable, as that is the main reason others and especially women become emotionally unstable.

As been pointed out others, when a woman is testing you and you don't budge is when she'll get uneasy. Especially when you deal with a toxic oriented woman!( will most likely be the case just being real).

So your answer might be along the lines of finding ways to become emotionally stable. As a rock. You basically say you are a pushover. A follower, one who gives in to avoid confrontation and will follow the false mantra that says " happy wife happy life".

And if your problem is the fact that you don't get " enough volume" when dealing with women to practice: this emotional stability should be displayed in front of everyone, always. And watch how people will tumble all around you.

With emotional stability comes confidence, security , strength ect ect perhaps financial wisdom, physical strenght. All facets that should be nurtured independently ofcourse, that's how you approach the 360. All around the best version you can be, while being as independent from needing other people as possible.

She will just be a BYPRODUCT for the first two years at least anyway..
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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