"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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It's always the WOMAN who does the dumping

luckster

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evansblue said:
Throughout high school, college, work friends, etc. I can't name ONE SINGLE exception where the attractive girl was dumped. I mean, it's almost unheard of. I'd say 90% of guys on this forum are here because their girl bailed.

This just goes to show you that guys are way more clingy than girls and get way to complacent in their dating lives. It's a startling statistic.
I wouldn't say it's cause of being clingy, but more so because most of the "90% of guys" are the "loyal" type where as the women they are dating might not be. In no way am I saying those guys should be disloyal, but the nature of how the gender structure is laid out makes the statistics that way.

Girls get approached through no virtues of their own, but just by being girls, thus have more opportunities to find someone better and dump.
Guys have to approach to find someone better and dump. But then approaching would look sleazy/suspicious.

In other words, if a guy sits and waits, it's rare something better will drop on his lap. If a girl sits and waits, chances are something better will drop on her lap... no pun intended.

But that's the point of the path to being a DJ, right? You don't sit and wait.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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luckster said:
I wouldn't say it's cause of being clingy, but more so because most of the "90% of guys" are the "loyal" type where as the women they are dating might not be. In no way am I saying those guys should be disloyal, but the nature of how the gender structure is laid out makes the statistics that way.

Girls get approached through no virtues of their own, but just by being girls, thus have more opportunities to find someone better and dump.
Guys have to approach to find someone better and dump. But then approaching would look sleazy/suspicious.

In other words, if a guy sits and waits, it's rare something better will drop on his lap. If a girl sits and waits, chances are something better will drop on her lap... no pun intended.

But that's the point of the path to being a DJ, right? You don't sit and wait.

^^^this post is sooo real.. and great.. but what is sad about it is that cheating is a part of the normal dynamic of every relationship and yes the male must be always actively looking for his next 2 options.. while the female is being pursued by her next to options.
 

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luckster said:
I wouldn't say it's cause of being clingy, but more so because most of the "90% of guys" are the "loyal" type where as the women they are dating might not be. In no way am I saying those guys should be disloyal, but the nature of how the gender structure is laid out makes the statistics that way.
This makes me wonder if men's tendency to be more loyal is related to their gender role of being the protector? Since men are programmed to "protect", maybe that makes them less likely to dump (and thus hurt) thier mate.

Another thing is the OP was talking about high school and college age couples. This is the time when the female's value is at its highest (looks) and the male's is at its lowest (not firmly established in career, hasn't reached physical strength peak yet, has not had enough experiences to be fully confident and mature).

So this imbalance probably contributes, although older women are more likely to initiate divorce, too. I wonder if the percentage of women dumping goes down as they get older, and if it decreases in cases where there is no marriage? I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was the case.
 

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If you are getting dumped more than you are dumping, then you need to make improvements in yourself, or date women with fewer options.

In my last 15 relationships, I dumped them 8 times, they dumped me 5 times, and 2 other times were mutual.
 
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"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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ositosucio

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Its true that hot girls do not get dumped. Those are just the facts of life.

Its like a girl wanting so bad to be able to kick the crap out of a guy, its never
going to happen, they just need to accept that.

i have dumped three hot girls just in the past year. One 19, another 20 and another 26. I am 33 and married.

All of them went ape **** and hounded me with a question for weeks after WHYWHYWHYYYYYY
You have no idea how something like that plays with their minds. Because is rarely happens.

Their hamster starts spinning that wheel so fast it drives them nuts.
 

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ositosucio said:
i have dumped three hot girls just in the past year. One 19, another 20 and another 26. I am 33 and married.

All of them went ape **** and hounded me with a question for weeks after WHYWHYWHYYYYYY
You have no idea how something like that plays with their minds. Because is rarely happens.

Their hamster starts spinning that wheel so fast it drives them nuts.

Yeah. I also disagree with the other guy's point. Hot girls definitely get dumped. Just because a girl is hot doesn't mean you're not going to dump her. I mean, after you've had sex with her dozens of times, what's left? You're certainly not going to tolerate BPD behavior, moodiness, stupidity, etc just to bang a girl the 101st time. It's like, "Okay, I had my fun. This is getting annoying now. Time to go."

Obviously they have more men available as rebound options. But they'll still be thinking about the guy who dumped them.
 

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I dump about 50% of the girls I date. This morning I finished things with a stripper I'd been seeing because she was getting too clingy.

But my problem is that whenever I'm really into a girl, she dumps me. Must be some unconscious vibe I'm putting out there.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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