"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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It pays not to chase after a rejection

El Payaso

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I matched with a girl on Tinder and decided to be direct and straight to the point. I told her something raunchy and said "oops damn autocorrect". Look at the attached picture for the rest of the conversation.

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I ended up asking for her number and she's coming over tonight.

She's pretty hot. She was probably shocked and felt it as a blow to her ego that I wasn't going to chase her after she shut me down the first time. We'll see if she shows up and I'll post an update later.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Chasing is for the weak and needy, those without options.

I've had several online lays after they blew me off. None from chasing, all from being direct and blowing them off.
 

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Tinder is a crap shoot. Some girls will respond to things that others will ignore. Also, that's a man :D
 

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Let us know if she did show up, mate.
 

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tinder girls are easy and she sounds like a total b!tch
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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We ended up actually doing "Netflix and chill" when she came over. Lol. I made some drinks and we watched a movie. During the movie, I pulled her closer, cuddled her for a bit and kissed her. She was so receptive that she was almost raping me with my mouth. I pulled off her top, brought out her breasts from her bra and sucked on her nipples. Gave some attention to her neck and she started moaning.

I tried pulling her pants off but she gave me some LMR. "I'm not that kind of girl. Well, I am but just not for anyone." I smiled and said "Okay." I resumed kissing her and started rubbing her cl!t through her pants. She was getting seriously wet and moaning hard. At that point, she just pulled her pants off and told me take mine off.

From there, it was on. We went at it like rabbits for a while. She even swallowed at the end. When she was leaving, she said to let her know anytime I want to hang out.
 

Juanto

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and that is a home run , well done :)
 

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I like the way you handled the ASD basically like a sh1t test pretended it just didn't happen. After a hard week lapping up all the validation from Thirsty Losers on Tinder she probably needed a good pounding.
 

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Actually slightly off topic I really believe woman need regular sex to balance them out emotionally. My girlfriend was malfunctioning over the last couple of days. Lots of accusations jealousy and s*** tests. It all eventually came down to the fact that she's been missing me and needed a good servicing which she got last night and this morning.

Might explain why all the cat ladies are so crazy.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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May I ask if she was in person the same as in the pics?
 

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So true, every time I tried to ask a girl out after she rejected me (sometimes we dated for a longer time or we had just 1 date or just number closed = all early stages) they keep rejecting you. Not worth it.

Once she loses interest or she doesnt have much to start with your on check mate means, delete number ghost the fvck on. She might reach out and still its 90% of the time only validation seeking.

Start with a fresh new girl that is highly interested for the best results and try not to fvck up. El Payaso is 100% on point here.

Case closed.
 
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So true, every time I tried to ask a girl out after she rejected me (sometimes we dated for a longer time or we had just 1 date or just number closed = all early stages) they keep rejecting you. Not worth it.
pretty much, this thread is about the exception to a rule
 

mikey2012

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Rejection takes 2 forms
1) Not replying
2) Replying saying they are busy with no counter offer
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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