"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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It all depends on how you deal with the bull****?

Plateonics

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It seems like a man has two choices. Either you give in to the bull**** (the tests) and win some short-term points. Or, you reject every bit of bull**** that comes down the pike, which puts you into risky negative point territory, but eventually she gains respect for you. If you take her bull****, you'll likely take it from others. So, who wants to spend their life with someone who allows themselves to be walked on. So, in the long-term, you win lots of points. But the dude with all the short-term points, in the long-run he's facing an impossible situation: A woman who has lost respect for him.

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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

Read more...

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Spot on really, the way I see it: if you don't know how to draw the line in a relationship, your resulting kids will grow up to be spoiled brats too.
 

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Plateonics said:
It seems like a man has two choices. Either you give in to the bull**** (the tests) and win some short-term points. Or, you reject every bit of bull**** that comes down the pike, which puts you into risky negative point territory, but eventually she gains respect for you. If you take her bull****, you'll likely take it from others. So, who wants to spend their life with someone who allows themselves to be walked on. So, in the long-term, you win lots of points. But the dude with all the short-term points, in the long-run he's facing an impossible situation: A woman who has lost respect for him.
Interesting idea, you could be on to something. There are two kinds of guys here, guys who want the quick short term lay. That's classic pickup, and notice how much of pickup is devoted to passing her sh!t tests.

Then there are guys like me who actually value relationships more than one night stands. I'm probably in the minority here, so I'll explain: If I find a girl worthy of being in a LTR, I think that's a valuable thing. Slvts, BPDs, and AWs are a dime a dozen. And if I can enjoy a woman on a multi-dimensional level, why should I settle for only the physical?

Anyway, point is I think more in the long term, and I firmly fall in the don't accept bullsh!t camp. The way to deal with sh!t tests is not to play.

So short term, pass her sh!t tests, and maybe get into her pants. Long term, don't put up with bullsh!t. She may not respect you, but it least it's a screening method.
 

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I'm deep in negative points with a woman I've been dating the past few months due to my systematic rejection of her tests. I'll try to report back on the outcome.

So, in a sense, while not intentionally searching for things to get on her case about, you are prepared to spot the BS and deal with it, show her ASAP that you're not the type to roll over. That's for women who enjoy to test so much. Others aren't so into testing and are more willing to go with the flow. (Maybe we should avoid the testers but maybe it's not possible).
 
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