"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Issue with EX gf...

lal4l

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So I did the 60 days no contact. My GF at the time and I had been fighting a lot, not seeing eye to eye... Anyways after those 60 days she sends me a text telling me sorry for what she has done etc. How she loves me and if I ever put down my pride, to call her that she would marry me etc. I meet up with her for a drink just to see her and see how she is doing...

I dont want her back but will always love her, no matter what I think about her a lot but know she makes me absolutely miserable and cant give me what I want... This is crazy!
So I have a few drinks and this girl is real difficult as in she is not a slut, barely has slept with guys.

I ask her if shes been with anyone, FULLY expecting a NO... She paused and I prowed it out of her. She said yes. I was shocked my heart dropped. She said she did it to get over me and to fill the whole blah blah... She would never talk to him again... Anyways...

I am pretty sure today I am going to tell her that just isnt the one for me and unable to make me happy. That even if I wanted to I really cant see past another D*** in her... I have been with maybe 5 women since our split but of course I said no.

She wants to work it out, but we have gone down this path before and it is just unhealthy... I love the girl... But I need to contact for a year or something. I was so hurt by hearing she was with someone else, and bothered for a few days, but now I am doing ok and realizing that this is LIFE and it moves on.

Any other way to help me through all this and what should I do?

Thanks!
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Maximummax

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Simple Spin more plates
She is EX for a reason
Move on. You have oneitis about her.
 

Johnnyventana

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Why pretend that you were a celibate 12 year old in her 60 day absence?

This 'sickness' you have felt since you heard she pounded a guy, should be her feeling she isn't good enough because you were off enjoying other, better, chicks.

Instead you look like you were pining for her forever. I don't get it.
 

Krueg

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Don't be a CHUMP and take her back. Tell her you had fun being with her but, its time for me (you) to move on. CASE CLOSED.
 
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