"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Isolating my close friend

farlenrejorano

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Hey guys!...I need an opinion on my current situation...


I've got interested in a close female friend of mine. As we are good friends for about a year, at first I thought I would have a hard time leaving the friendzone with her. She's very flirty with me and when I talked about my feelings to some of my friends, which are her friends too, they all said that they are sure she likes me.

The problem is that when I ask her out, she always asks who's going with us and wants to call everybody to go with. I can see that she has a pretty good IL for me, but I don't know how to close the deal.

Today I've asked her to go to the movies. She seemed interested at first, asked who was going with us and I said I was going alone. So she asked "Aren't you going to call the people?!?". I was caught off guard by this question and ended by saying "yeah, I'm gonna call them.". She said she would talk to her mother and call me later.

I called two of our friends, both of them had other plans for today. Then some minutes later, she calls me and asks at what time I was planning to go. I said at 4:00 p.m. and she said she had forgot that she had already arranged to go to the library with her (female) friend and she didn't know when they would come back. She said that more late was better for her, but as I said that nobody else was going with us, she said she would rather go another day because her mom would get mad with her coming back home late, that was what would happen if she went to the movies. Then she said she would like to come along if I call the people to do something later.



My point is...My friends are sure she likes me...And she even shows some great signs of interest...But when I try to make a move like this, it's hard as hell to isolate her...I know that I will only find out if she really likes me or if I'm just a friend if I make a move when we are alone. So I ask you...What's the best way to isolate her on a situation like this?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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true romance

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spin other plates..if she you with other girls then she might change you in friendzone...but I think Asyrian is right..

Go out and seduce other women or use her as pivot.
 

farlenrejorano

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At first I thought I had no chance too...But sometimes she gives me some green lights, to the point that some of my friends say that she is obviously interested in me.

I just want a tip on how can I isolate her from my other friends to try something...
 

“The 22 Psychological Triggers That Make Women Chase You… Starting Tonight”

Forget the cash, the cars, and the chiseled jawlines. Female desire operates on a completely different frequency. Primal. Subconscious. Triggers that bypass her logic and hit her on a gut level. Most guys are totally blind to them.

I know because I was one of them. The overthinking. The paralysis. The silent drive home kicking yourself for freezing up. Watching average guys walk away with the girl while you stood there stuck in your own head.

Then I decoded the psychology behind what actually makes women tick. 22 hard rules.  Subtle behavioral shifts that rewired my entire reality. The anxiety evaporated. Women started leaning in. Investing. Chasing.

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Adam B

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Just start talking to more girls and go out on some dates. That'll get her attention. It worked like a charm for me and I didn't even know I was doing it. I just gave up on her and talked to other girls, and then she basically fought tooth and nail for my attention. We ended up dating for 5 months, but it didn't last because I didn't know any of the "rules" back then.
 

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All signs point to the friendzone. Also what she told you... she is going with her friend to the library and doesent know when she'll be back? wtf who goes to the library to hang out....

anyway you can for sure know where you stand by asking her out one more time and if she gives you rejection, oyu are in the friend zone.
 

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Bad Idea.

You will lose her as a friend if you try to get with her.

When you are close friends with a girl, they let down their guard, and will touch, flirt, hold, cuddle, call, go on dates etc. you like there is no tomorrow, but that does not mean that they like you.

Maybe there are rare exceptions, but the rule pretty much is, once you become good friends, you become a girl to them.
 
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