"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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El Payaso

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You have to spend all this money on various dates with her and then after the first or whatever number of dates, she might have sex with you.
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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Another good argument to escalate as soon as possible to gauge the real interest of the girl, instead of wasting too much money on dating (first ones should be cheap though, looking back quite regret a couple of them though)
 

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Another good argument to escalate as soon as possible to gauge the real interest of the girl, instead of wasting too much money on dating (first ones should be cheap though, looking back quite regret a couple of them though)
Cheapest date I ever had, I spent $2. We met at a coffee shop. She paid for her coffee. We walked around for a bit. I suggested a movie but she said we should go back to my place instead.

We went to my place and had wild sex.

I didn't see her again because she was moving out of state for college the next week.
 

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I don't spend a dime on women unless I'm in a relationship with them, and even then it's small stuff. A month ago I texted a girl when she was late for our date and told her for every 10 minutes that pass she has to buy more of my meal. She ended up paying for the whole thing because she was 30 minutes late getting to my place! Beer, main course and dessert. Lol.

You don't have to break the bank to meet, date, and even tie the knot with girls; and any chick that expects you to... just stay away from. Plenty of them are independent.
 

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This is why you don't go on "dates" with new women.

You meet up with them somewhere that is convenient for YOU and use that time to talk and flirt. Based on her behavior you make a judgement call on what to do next.

Any woman who balks at the idea that you won't take her out on a "proper date" is looking for a PROVIDER a.k.a man with resources she can exploit in exchange for sex or the possibility of sex.

Women are good at identifying faggots who follow traditional dating protocol and other social conventions that ONLY benefit women.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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"Kyle, every boy pays for kisses. Do you know what I am saying? If you've got a girl, and she kisses you, sooner or later you're paying for it. You've gotta take her out to lunch, take her to a movie, and then spend time listenin' to all her stupid problems. Look, look at Stan right there. [Kyle turns to see Stan, who's listening to Wendy over at the merry-go-round] He's gotta sit there and listen to her stupid mother****in' problems 'cause she kisses him. If you ask me, that's a lot more than the five dollars my company charges." - Butters, South park.
 

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I should add that the more "rules" you follow the more thirsty you appear.

Women know that men only "break the rules" then they have options. So when you are sticking to standard protocol a woman knows your options are limited. The more attractive a man is.. the more unconventional he can behave. Likewise.. the more conventional a man behaves the more unattractive he is.
 

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I should add that the more "rules" you follow the more thirsty you appear.

Women know that men only "break the rules" then they have options. So when you are sticking to standard protocol a woman knows your options are limited. The more attractive a man is.. the more unconventional he can behave. Likewise.. the more conventional a man behaves the more unattractive he is.
Breaking rules and social cultural agreements, isnt that what "a$$holes" do after all?
 

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Cheapest date I ever had, I spent $2. We met at a coffee shop. She paid for her coffee. We walked around for a bit. I suggested a movie but she said we should go back to my place instead.

We went to my place and had wild sex.

I didn't see her again because she was moving out of state for college the next week.
That was one hell of a bargain...
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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That was one hell of a bargain...
Indeed, it was. She always ranks up there as one of my more memorable sexual encounters.
 

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In the forum of serious relationships not one night stands I think it is critical to remove any financial motivators. It's the only way you can tell if a person is into you or your wallet.

Dinners are earned through genuine interest and affection.
 

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This is why you don't go on "dates" with new women.

You meet up with them somewhere that is convenient for YOU and use that time to talk and flirt. Based on her behavior you make a judgement call on what to do next.

Any woman who balks at the idea that you won't take her out on a "proper date" is looking for a PROVIDER a.k.a man with resources she can exploit in exchange for sex or the possibility of sex.

Women are good at identifying faggots who follow traditional dating protocol and other social conventions that ONLY benefit women.
What sort of places do you use?
 

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What sort of places do you use?
I think the best places are the city websites. There they list all the free events they have scheduled. Wish there was a place where all this info is collected.
 

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What sort of places do you use?
Anything convenient. Usually a place I plan to be anyway regardless of her showing up.

If there are events going on in the city I want to check out (there always are) I might invite her to that. Maybe a museum, maybe a free comedy show, maybe a bar or lounge if I'm doing happy hour. Sometimes malls if I'm looking for new clothes. I live in the city so I can actually invite women to meet me near where I live and occasionally straight to my apartment. "Oops! I forgot my wallet. I'll have to run inside and get it. Don't wait on the street. Come inside for a few minutes."

I just add her to my schedule instead of trying to come up with some "special plan" just for her.
 

"I'm Not Looking for Anything Serious Right Now"

When a woman says it, guys hear a confession. A heads-up. A scheduling conflict.

Here's the translation: I don't feel anything. Right now. With you.

Watch what happens when a man triggers actual attraction. The busy career, the recent breakup, the "not in a place to date" — all of it evaporates instantly. The same woman who was guarding her freedom is suddenly free every night.

The "22 Rules" explain why. When the right switches flip, her timeline rearranges itself around you.

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I always believed that sex with prostitutes is muuuuch cheaper than a gf.
I wouldn't have believed that but my current "hand out" gf is way more expensive. I'd even suppose prostitute will treat me better and I'd get 5x more sex action than I do now.

It's my fault for not saying no more often and being too kind
 

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I think the best places are the city websites. There they list all the free events they have scheduled. Wish there was a place where all this info is collected.
This is a very good one. There are usually a lot of free events on city websites. Some of them are pretty good too.
 

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The difference with 'girlfriends' is traditionally u pay them to stay AKA brifaults law. Whereas hookers u pay to go away afterwards ;-)
 

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Normally, It's good to know the date and time. But "dating" removes all of the spontaneity and is therefore anti-romance. And, with all the unwritten rules and regulations.... it's too much, and it's just not fun!

...I know the good old doc would probably disagree.

If you want to interact with ladies in an alternative and "in person" environment... Suggestion: Remember names, and become one of the regulars at your local supermarket or department store.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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