"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is your ideal girl inexperienced?

TheCWord

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Whenever I think about what longterm girlfriend quality means to me, I imagine the girl being as close to virginal as possible.

I am also a self-aware hypocrite. I've slept with around 30 women yet I think my ceiling for my ideal GF would be 5.

That said, I was recently banging a girl who I think had only been with ONE other guy before me... I would've thought it was PERFECT... FINALLY, the girl for ME!...

...but the sex was HORRIBLE.

I'm being dramatic. Sex is like pizza, even when it's bad it's still pretty good. But you know what I mean. It felt clumsy and I had to really concentrate in order to climax. She wouldn't swallow. I had to guide her every which way so it was like tossing a 100+lb paperweight around. Plus I think her lack of relationship experience overall made even fully clothed interactions feel less invigorating than I'd like them to be.

What's your philosophy?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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zekko

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I think the best case would be somewhere in between. If she doesn't know anything, that can be a pain in the arse. Then again, you don't want her to be overly experienced - you don't want her to have had 100 different c0cks in her.
 

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Either completely virginal or experienced. Both for different reasons.. Waste of time to spend it on an in-between. You get neither of the best of both worlds. Inexperienced ones have full of insane ideas in their heads of how things "ought to be!!".
 

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i like girls with enough experience to know what she is doing, but its nice to have a chick that has a few things on her list that you can still cross off if you get adventurous with her.
I think having a chick that can make herself *** is KEY too. Chicks that masturbate are always better in bed, IMHO.
 

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This is a really good topic. I been with both kind of girls on the extreme. Most men would strive for the non experienced girl when it comes to a relationship. It does sound cliche but you do have to find the girl in the middle.

We get so spoiled with porn, we tend to think sex will look like that. I been with girls who never watched porn or watched very minimally, and they wouldn't know what to do or know any other positions other then missionary!
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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JoeMarron

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
If you are alpha you can make inexperienced women do what you want.
Exactly. They become your sex slave and you mold them into whatever image you want. My chick was very inexperienced and after a bit of work, if you could actually call it work, I've turned her into a sex fiend who does whatever I want.
 

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being with an experienced woman who already knows exactly what you want and like can be so amazing
 
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