OnTheWayUp
Senior Don Juan
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Gents,
Just been flaked on again, so I apologise in advance if this theory seems a little overly cynical.
I discovered PUA material back in September as a result of a failed "relationship" with the first girl I ever kissed. Since this time, I have been on somewhere between 10-15 dates with various other girls. These dates have included things like going to bars, playing minigolf, going rock climbing, hanging out in one of our rooms etc. I can't help but notice that all these dates, whilst for the most part good fun and good field experience at applying PUA knowledge, have ultimately led to nothing more than multiple friend zonings, a couple of failed kiss attempts and the discovery on my part that significantly more college age girls than I thought are basically AWs.
Conversely, the two times I've got kissing/ groping "action" since September have been:
1) 2am after a party, when I took the girl home with me.
2) When this same girl invited herself over to my place 7-10 days later.
Admittedly this sample size is very small (perhaps 10 girls in total), but it seems to me that I've had more success in escalating physically when I've been at a social event organised by someone else, rather than a formal "date" type setting I've arranged myself. I get the impression that many of the girls I've been out with went out with me simply because they were bored, had nothing else to do, and fancied some entertainment for the evening- of the non-sexual variety.
This leads me to believe that, rather than going on dates, I should put more effort into going to parties and attempting to escalate with/ isolate multiple girls from my friendship circle who I've already built sexual value with. I'm quite a social butterfly with lots of hobbies, so various girls come to mind in various social circles. I'd like to think that this approach would put my agenda (ie a sex-based relationship) first, whereas my dating approach up till now has given the girls too much attention with little or nothing in return for me, feeding into their frame of "I have to wait x dates before I put out."
Maybe girls my age feel too pressured by a one-on-one date? Or maybe girls are just that much more relaxed in a party setting? Or am I doing something fundamentally wrong on my dates?
Any other college guys out there with similar experiences?
Just been flaked on again, so I apologise in advance if this theory seems a little overly cynical.
I discovered PUA material back in September as a result of a failed "relationship" with the first girl I ever kissed. Since this time, I have been on somewhere between 10-15 dates with various other girls. These dates have included things like going to bars, playing minigolf, going rock climbing, hanging out in one of our rooms etc. I can't help but notice that all these dates, whilst for the most part good fun and good field experience at applying PUA knowledge, have ultimately led to nothing more than multiple friend zonings, a couple of failed kiss attempts and the discovery on my part that significantly more college age girls than I thought are basically AWs.
Conversely, the two times I've got kissing/ groping "action" since September have been:
1) 2am after a party, when I took the girl home with me.
2) When this same girl invited herself over to my place 7-10 days later.
Admittedly this sample size is very small (perhaps 10 girls in total), but it seems to me that I've had more success in escalating physically when I've been at a social event organised by someone else, rather than a formal "date" type setting I've arranged myself. I get the impression that many of the girls I've been out with went out with me simply because they were bored, had nothing else to do, and fancied some entertainment for the evening- of the non-sexual variety.
This leads me to believe that, rather than going on dates, I should put more effort into going to parties and attempting to escalate with/ isolate multiple girls from my friendship circle who I've already built sexual value with. I'm quite a social butterfly with lots of hobbies, so various girls come to mind in various social circles. I'd like to think that this approach would put my agenda (ie a sex-based relationship) first, whereas my dating approach up till now has given the girls too much attention with little or nothing in return for me, feeding into their frame of "I have to wait x dates before I put out."
Maybe girls my age feel too pressured by a one-on-one date? Or maybe girls are just that much more relaxed in a party setting? Or am I doing something fundamentally wrong on my dates?
Any other college guys out there with similar experiences?
