"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mojo16

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www.thefriendzone.co

should i do what it says to get out of the friendzone or will it screw my chances with this girl even more? (im deep in the friendzone here)
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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is pretty good actually, about her havin the power is true, i feel that way with some girls, like i cant move or do what i think, and escaping is not very easy
 

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Its not worth spending too much effort trying to get out of the friendzone, but you should still take all of the advice on that site. Spend your energy looking for other girls at the same time as being less predictable and not always being there for her - it enhances your odds of eventually getting together whilst giving opportunities with other better girls who haven't friendzoned you yet.

Friendzone is a horrible thing and I think most guys end up there at least once. No guy past the age of 20 should ever let himself fall into that trap again though
 
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is pretty good actually, about her havin the power is true, i feel that way with some girls, like i cant move or do what i think, and escaping is not very easy
That's why as a man you stamp your authority and stand up for yourself.
 

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getting out of the friendzone is way too much work. move and and work on someone new and avoid the freindzone this time kapiche?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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mojo16

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@ the pectoralismajor.... i used to think that too.. then i met a girl who was worth doing 'too much work' for.
 

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I like that site. I especially think "avoid the friendzone" is spot on. Once u are in that zone, it's hard to get out, but what he says about avoiding it is great. Don't ever let a girl phase you. Just do your thing, if she likes you, she will want to be with you. Don't let her mood swings and how she treats you, effect your happiness. Just act like you can find someone who will treat you better, they hate that. Great site.

But just remember, sometimes, you can actually treat a girl like a friend, and if she is ATTRACTED enough, she will still want you. But this takes JEALOUSY. She HAS TO SEE YOU WITH OTHER WOMEN. I have one of these. I did all these things that are bad. But I make sure she knows about my sex adventures with other women, and she loves it. I'm sure if I wanted to, I could fuvk her. JEALOUSY is a very, very powerful tool. This, though, has to be with a girl who friendzoned you but still thinks you are "hot". She asked me to go see a movie with her, but I said "is your boyfriend okay with that? Cause if I get you in the dark, I will make out with you". She eats it up, but I don't like her that much, otherwise, I would never be in the friendzone, I would have been more careful.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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