"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is this true?

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That some girls will put off having sex with a guy they really want because they dont want it to be just a one night stand?
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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No. They'll give themselves openly to someone they're in tune with or have an angle on gaining something from.

If a girl gives you LMR it's because her inner slvt is feeling you're untrustworthy or she has absolutely nothing to gain from fvcking you.
 
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KarmaSutra said:
No. They'll give themselves openly to someone they're in tune with or have an angle on gaining something from.

If a girl gives you LMR it's because her inner slvt is feeling you're untrustworthy or she has absolutely nothing to gain from fvcking you.
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What do you mean by openly? (her inviting you to isolated locations, calling you frequently)
 
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Yes.

A lot of women think they might jeopardize a LTR by sleeping with you too soon. There are many men who could confirm not only that, but that they would indeed lose interest if a woman put out too soon.

So yes. Some women wait, because they want something deeper with you.
 
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domino maybe I am not attractive as an LTR then lol. I am finding it more and more common that my lays go down first meeting and I am getting more and more bold about how I go about transitioning. Almost all my lays comes within the first two meetings, I can't remember anytime in recent history that took a full 3 meetings to get down to business. If I had to meet a woman more than 3 times, I'd probably write her off as a waste of my precious time. If a woman doesn't want and isn't willing to have some fun, there are plenty of fish in the sea. Why would any guy keep wasting his time with a boring, prude? Seems strange to me
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Hmm. Tough for me to answer this one. In a lot of my relationships I ended up in, I sexed pretty early on without really thinking about a relationship at all. It was just there, the sexual tension and I didn't think I'd want to date the guy. In all these cases, I ended up liking him a lot and getting into a relationship. My longest though, if records go to show..4 year relationship...I waited a month or so to have sex with him.

It's really dependent on the situation. I think NOW, in the state of mind I've been of late..I will definitely wait longer.
 
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domino said:
That some girls will put off having sex with a guy they really want because they dont want it to be just a one night stand?
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This is in many women's playbook but they don't always follow it. The ironic thing is if a guy happened to want a LTR and follows a long with a girls hold back the sex game she is less likely to get into a relationship with him.
 
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SunnyD said:
Hmm. Tough for me to answer this one. In a lot of my relationships I ended up in, I sexed pretty early on without really thinking about a relationship at all. It was just there, the sexual tension and I didn't think I'd want to date the guy. In all these cases, I ended up liking him a lot and getting into a relationship. My longest though, if records go to show..4 year relationship...I waited a month or so to have sex with him.

It's really dependent on the situation. I think NOW, in the state of mind I've been of late..I will definitely wait longer.
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I think what happens with some women is they get into a relationship with a guy after they have sex with the guy and then the guy totally changes by calling her frequently and just being real needy and the relationship ends but he continues to try to get her by calling frequently, so I think to prevent this from happening some women want to screen the guy to see if he will change after sex.
 
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ketostix said:
This is in many women's playbook but they don't always follow it. The ironic thing is if a guy happened to want a LTR and follows a long with a girls hold back the sex game she is less likely to get into a relationship with him.
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If the guy makes no attempts to violate the contract she spit at him....then ya you are right. As long as he still attempts to get some but lets her 'stop' him then it will grow into a LTR. She has to know you are interested. You just can't plop down and be her best hangout buddy.
 
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If the guy makes no attempts to violate the contract she spit at him....then ya you are right. As long as he still attempts to get some but lets her 'stop' him then it will grow into a LTR. She has to know you are interested. You just can't plop down and be her best hangout buddy.
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Good point, a man has to impose his agenda and not let her impose hers. Women have a knack for ruining the start of a good thing lol.
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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ketostix said:
Good point, a man has to impose his agenda and not let her impose hers. Women have a knack for ruining the start of a good thing lol.
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watching a buddy go thru it now with a 'born again' girl. It's been a couple of months and he's up to doing "everything but" lol. She reeling him in...but he's got 4 more on the side he's seeing. I'm trying to step my game up to my friends level.
 
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watching a buddy go thru it now with a 'born again' girl. It's been a couple of months and he's up to doing "everything but" lol. She reeling him in...but he's got 4 more on the side he's seeing. I'm trying to step my game up to my friends level.
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See that's the funny thing a smart guy isn't going to go without while the girl plays the make him wait for the sex game lol. This is a case where I see the benefit and neccesity of plate spinning for sure.
 
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