"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Is this one a lost cause...?

PuffyPonny

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I posted a thread about a co-worker that I'm interested in who works in different departments from mine weeks ago.Here is the back ground

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/index....ed-in-my-co-worker.233737/page-2#post-2338688

Anyways after I returned to work after taking few weeks after I sustained a second degree burn on my hand,he was happy to see me and asked were I have been. while I was chatting with him,I asked him if he has been at the gym lately to which he responded no, and proceeded to tell me that it's been 2 months since he has visited the gym because he has been working 4 jobs. The one we work together is full time.Mon to Friday then 3 more. I was going to do what some of you suggested which is to flirt ,get his number etc but I'm now discouraged. I now wonder if he senses my interest and announced that he has FOUR jobs to discourage me ?????Even if he's interested how is he going to have time for me?Should I just forget about this one?
 
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Girls who don't follow my schedule. I eject them from my life.

He will feel the same, 4 jobs might be to pay loans, finance his business, take care of his family etc....

He might feel not having time to date or be shy about it.

Your call, ask him out, follow his rythm. I know you'll want to curve the time in your favor but you will lose him there
 

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Ask him out. If he says no and doesn't counteroffer, he's not interested and you should forget about him.
 

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And this is the issue with women in a nutshell...

They jump to crazy conclusions based on literally nothing to go on and potentially screw themselves out of good things by doing so. Then turn around and complain they can't meet any good guys. Well you probably did, but you imagined all these scenarios in your head about him that had no basis in reality and talked yourself out of meeting him, dating him, etc.

So this guy intentionally told you he has 4 jobs because he is hoping you don't ask him out? Dudes just don't think like this.

If you want something to happen then make it happen. No dude turns down free sex with a woman unless she is hideous or obese, and not even then all the time.

And let's be honest. You want to fvck this guy. No woman is going to think about this for months and post repeatedly on a forum if that wasn't the case. So appeal to his sexual side and I think you'll probably get what you want.
 
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Thanks for the replies but realistically how is going to have time for me working 4 jobs?He has no time, so what is the point?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Well hello again Ponny... I am going to tell you the best bit of advice, but you are not going to like it.

Forget about this guy and focus your efforts on someone who would be better suited for you.

Let us be honest... This guy is busy (working 4 jobs), good luck actually having time to have an actual relationship and go out on date Also, he has not asked you out... He may not be interested, or if he actually likes you then he may just not be very confident or he may be indecisive... But let us say for instance that he does like you but he is either indecisive or afraid to ask you out... Is a indecisive man who lacks confidence a guy you actually want to be with? Would you not get sick of this kind of person after a few months and desire someone who actually takes charge? You will meet many men in your life, relationships will come and go... Do not fret over just one man.
 

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Well hello again Ponny... I am going to tell you the best bit of advice, but you are not going to like it.

Forget about this guy and focus your efforts on someone who would be better suited for you.

Let us be honest... This guy is busy (working 4 jobs), good luck actually having time to have an actual relationship and go out on date Also, he has not asked you out... He may not be interested, or if he actually likes you then he may just not be very confident or he may be indecisive... But let us say for instance that he does like you but he is either indecisive or afraid to ask you out... Is a indecisive man who lacks confidence a guy you actually want to be with? Would you not get sick of this kind of person after a few months and desire someone who actually takes charge? You will meet many men in your life, relationships will come and go... Do not fret over just one man.

Bottom line if he wants to Fvck her he will find a way to do so if she makes her intentions known.
 

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Thanks for the replies but realistically how is going to have time for me working 4 jobs?He has no time, so what is the point?
How long does it take to have a drink and then Fvck? An hour? Two hours?

Well...for most guys the fvcking is going to be the short part of the date, lol
 

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Well hello again Ponny... I am going to tell you the best bit of advice, but you are not going to like it.

Forget about this guy and focus your efforts on someone who would be better suited for you.

Let us be honest... This guy is busy (working 4 jobs), good luck actually having time to have an actual relationship and go out on date Also, he has not asked you out... He may not be interested, or if he actually likes you then he may just not be very confident or he may be indecisive... But let us say for instance that he does like you but he is either indecisive or afraid to ask you out... Is a indecisive man who lacks confidence a guy you actually want to be with? Would you not get sick of this kind of person after a few months and desire someone who actually takes charge? You will meet many men in your life, relationships will come and go... Do not fret over just one man.
I'm afraid you might be right...my instinct tells me that I should move on too.My wants/needs/expectations won't be met.I mean just being realistic
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Well i'm looking for more than just a quick hook up lol
And? Sex comes first then relationships. We both know this, let's not sit here and play this game now. You know what you want from him.
 

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Puffy, you're rusty and need some game. Do you live in NY?
 
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