"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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is this normal?

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I met a girl. When we started talking she began to tell me how she had fantasies about me. She told me her sexual history (threesomes, toys, etc). We began to date but before we started dating she told me "just dont f**k me over". I went over to her house and we went for a walk. We started talking about families. I told her I wanted to have a son. Afterwards she asked me "What do you like sexually?" I felt kind of awkward and asked her if she felt comfortable talking about this. She said " I have had my toungue half way up a guys a** before. What ever you say is not going to embarrass me." So I tell her. We walk back to my car and we start kissing. I guess I was was kissing to much because she shoved me away and yells "Dont be like one of those guys who is all pushy."
Anyway, we go out on a couple of "dates". Our first couple of dates she wants to go to porn shops. On our second "date" we go to one. When we were there she asked me what kind of porn I liked. I told her and she tells me she likes girl/girl porn and who her favorite porn actress is. About a week later I told her I had a surprise for her. I had bought her a DVD w/ her favorite porn actress. When I gave it to her she flipped out saying she could not believe I bought her porn and she wanted to be courted more (flowers, etc). After that I could not relax around her. Is any of this normal?
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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Its perfectly normal... for a hooker, porn star, or bpd chick, that is. She's trying to hook you in through your sexual fantasies.

Nothing wrong with being super sexual or kinky, but the way she throws it all in your face so quick is a strong signal that something is not right with this chick. It makes me wonder what she ISNT telling you about!

Sounds like the beginning of a BPD relationship. Read the threads about that. I could be wrong, but that seems like too much info, way too soon. Keep us posted about her behaviour.
 

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If you get emotionally involved with this person in any way shape or form I would bet money you will be back on here posting about the disaster that happened with your "breakup".

This girl is not relationship material. You are already feeling nervous around her. She has you in a daze. You cannot figure her out. Treat her like the ***** she is. Be standoffish and act as best you can that she doesn;t phase you. Pursue other women immediately. Fvck around with her if you must though.

Good luck.
 

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You are too nice for her. Plan and simple. If you were treating her like sh!t and like the skank she really is....she would be licking your ass hole instead of telling you how she licked some other doods ass (before you even kissed her, classy). She is trying to see if you are a symp or a pimp. And you fall on the side of symp in her eyes. you shouldn't be buying her anything. She should be buying things for you. I would charge this one to the game and move on. Your not ready to deal with this type of woman, and to be honest it probably isn't worth the effort just for some kinky sex. Move on man, move on.
 

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I have had my toungue half way up a guys a** before. What ever you say is not going to embarrass me."... We walk back to my car and we start kissing.
She tells you that she sticks her tongue up guy's asses and moments later you're kissing her. How normal are you?
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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We are broken up. She did other things too:

1) told me I could spit in her face during sex but would not let me hold her
2) got mad at me for being "too excited to see her". She told me her life felt empty and hated her looks. When I told her she was beautiful she started yelling at me to stop saying that all the time.
3) told me she was unhappy because are relationship was all about sex. we go out that night. She has a few drinks and she turns into her ***** when we go home.
4) she wants to break up because I am not "in control enough" and dont make her laugh. After we break up she starts texting. When I dont respond she calls wanting to know why I am ignoring her.
5) we get back together. She tells me to try and stop being the "perfect boyfriend"
6) would always go out and come home and tell me how guys were hitting on her. I would not get jealous though because I dont think women will ever cheat on me. I am naive that way
She did alot of other things. After we broke up people told me she had characteristics of BPD. But after we were through I felt like I was going Nuts. I had terrible luck w/ women for about a two years after wards. I did not trust them at all. I still dont to some degree. But I am back to my normal self. But I sometimes think back to the whole episode and am embarrassed and angry that I let it happen. I blame myself. Is it normal to go through this?
 

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Mr. Me said:
She tells you that she sticks her tongue up guy's asses and moments later you're kissing her. How normal are you?
I see your point. But I am relatively normal.
 

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BPD relationship heading your way.

End it now or severely regret not ending it later.

She is already doing the up is down right is left 1984 Orwellian non logic double speak that is BPD and that makes all that get involved with them eventually feel like they are the crazy one.

Again I know she's tempting because of all the sexual things she's pushing your way.

Understand that this is just part of their sick game of ensnarement.

Its not how she really feels its just her way of hooking you in order that you will become the victim of her latest horror novel.
 

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It is normal. She is human being. But consequences of this too good to be true relationship can be fatal.

You cannot satisfy BPD. Because you are either too boring (too much in love) or too distant (when she would obsessively try to get you back).

It is funny for me because these things are so hard to see if you got limited capacity of comprehension of the world (black/white thinking).

Maybe this would make some satisfaction. There are really really small odds that she would someday really be happy and fullfilled. ;)
 

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Janez said:
It is funny for me because these things are so hard to see if you got limited capacity of comprehension of the world (black/white thinking).
Your absolutely right, I mean who might have thought that a girl that sticks her tounge up a mans ass and like 3somes and is kinky as hell could have possibly been messed up in the head.... even if an IQ of a monkey could see she wasn't ltr material
 

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bike habitat said:
When I gave it to her she flipped out saying she could not believe I bought her porn and she wanted to be courted more (flowers, etc). After that I could not relax around her. Is any of this normal?
This is straight out of the "BPD operating manual for Women".

One of the telltale signs of a relationship with a BPD sicko is that feeling in you of being "on edge". This never happened to me in 30 years of dating 'normal' women and two marriages.
Then I met "Miss Perfect China Doll " in late 2005.
Within 60 days we had broken up twice, had numerous spats, she had accused me of cheating but was cheating herself, constantly created minor dramas, broke dates, told me how she loved me but hated me the next day,and through all this she fukked like a porn star.

Yep, just like you I "could not ever relax around her" because what was great Monday, really pissed her off on Tuesday.
BPDs constantly flip the script on you. You walk on eggs waiting for the next wildfire.

When did you finish with her?
 

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bike habitat said:
She told me her sexual history (threesomes, toys, etc). ...........When I gave it to her she flipped out saying she could not believe I bought her porn and she wanted to be courted more (flowers, etc). After that I could not relax around her. Is any of this normal?
I didn't write this definition. And I'm not suggesting anything. Just a thought.

:whistle:

Donkey Punch is a slang term for an apocryphal sexual practice supposedly performed during anal sex. The purported practice involves the penetrating partner punching the receiving partner in the back of the head or neck (what is known in boxing as a rabbit punch, after a technique to kill rabbits) allegedly causing the receiving partner's anal passage to tense up and increase the pleasure of the penetrating partner. When used, the donkey punch is almost exclusively executed during or just before the orgasm of the penetrating partner.

:woo:
 

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bike habitat said:
" I have had my toungue half way up a guys a** before. ............. We walk back to my car and we start kissing. I guess I was was kissing to much

Maybe she just got her tongue out of some guy's a$$ and felt uncomfortable making out with you. Did she smell like a f*rt?


Cheers!
 

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horaholic said:
Its perfectly normal... for a hooker, porn star, or bpd chick, that is. She's trying to hook you in through your sexual fantasies.

Nothing wrong with being super sexual or kinky, but the way she throws it all in your face so quick is a strong signal that something is not right with this chick. It makes me wonder what she ISNT telling you about!

Sounds like the beginning of a BPD relationship. Read the threads about that. I could be wrong, but that seems like too much info, way too soon. Keep us posted about her behaviour.

The OPs relationship ended a "couple" years ago.

It is interesting how he needed to post here after all that time.

Another example of the permanence and depth of damage that a relationship with these woman can cause ?
 

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lol - now i understand the spin plates theory. But really, with how enticing BPD girls are would we choose them still. Eg. I was spinning plates when I chose mine. She was just too good to be true though eventually.

* not diagnosing these girls as BPD just saying 'crazy in head, great in bed' type...
 

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jophil28 said:
The OPs relationship ended a "couple" years ago.

It is interesting how he needed to post here after all that time.

Another example of the permanence and depth of damage that a relationship with these woman can cause ?
He only revealed that after his second post.

At least my BPD ex had the courtesy to convince me that I was the first guy she gave a rimjob to! I had to testify against the guy who tried to kill me over her, and I had the pleasure of asking him how my cvm and butthole tasted, on my way out of the courtroom.

This thread should have been in the 'cluster B discussions' thread. I really hope the OP has read those threads. I always skimmed the BPD threads, because I assumed they were talking about Bi-polar. I think many people make this mistake. I hope the Op knows, and is read on the subject from our point of view.
 

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jophil28 said:
The OPs relationship ended a "couple" years ago.

It is interesting how he needed to post here after all that time.

Another example of the permanence and depth of damage that a relationship with these woman can cause ?

Speaking of depth... My ex of 9 years ago... that dumped me on new years day of the millennium was at a bday party for one of our common friends turning 30 last night..

she was Bi-Polar.. took meds and everything.. I was with her on and off for 4 years.. and I am permanently messed up from it.. I think I am fine.. and someone can bring her up and it still evokes feelings... angry feelings...

I havent had a relationship last past 6 months since her.. most ending in 3 or less..

she did me a favor dumping me then though... I walked off and never looked back..

last night was the 1st time we have touched since 2000... she gave me a hug and introduced me to her 2 friends..

I spent the rest of the evening ignoring her and having a good time..


anywho its just funny you mention the depth of damage that a relationship with these woman can cause...

I will never date a bi polar woman ever again.. a friend tried to hook me up with one, her coworker.. and I was like no way.. she was like but I am a well medicated bi-polar.. yeah she lost her **** numerous times in the store...
she was fun to go out with though...

ramble ramble..

Bi-polar = bad news..


just run away...
 

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You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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