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Damnit

This has happened to every single girl I have asked out and pursued over the years. Do you know how emotionally dehumanizing this is?


****, it's gotten so bad that iv'e had to resort to international sites and talking to women from overseas because they're the only ones that give me attention. Seriously, I can have couple hour long conversations with some of these women, and they never take more than 10 minutes to respond back. And sometimes, they'll even text me "good morning".

Do you know how good that feels?


Man, when you've felt unwanted your whole life, it feels so good to have some validation.
I understand.

Your issue might be deeper than just your interactions with women. There might be layers upon layers that need to be peeled off.

I will say this:

1) Be kind to yourself, you are trying and that is half the battle.
2) Do not seek validation from women. That is a women's trait. Men "validate" themselves by knowing their purpose, living by that purpose, working on themselves etc, etc.

I recently mentioned this on another thread, but I highly advise reading "The Way Of Men" by Jack Donovan. And in your case, "Switch On Your Brain" By Dr Caroline Leaf *Important, I am not religious, but there are a lot of bible citing that depending on your spirituality you will have to use a shopping cart approach going through it*. The important thing is to understand neuroplascity/neurogenesis and implement the exercise mentioned in the book.


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What I’ve learned in many years and hundreds of women is that if you think you’re wasting your time, you are.
 

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I understand.

Your issue might be deeper than just your interactions with women. There might be layers upon layers that need to be peeled off.

I will say this:

1) Be kind to yourself, you are trying and that is half the battle.
2) Do not seek validation from women. That is a women's trait. Men "validate" themselves by knowing their purpose, living by that purpose, working on themselves etc, etc.

I recently mentioned this on another thread, but I highly advise reading "The Way Of Men" by Jack Donovan. And in your case, "Switch On Your Brain" By Dr Caroline Leaf *Important, I am not religious, but there are a lot of bible citing that depending on your spirituality you will have to use a shopping cart approach going through it*. The important thing is to understand neuroplascity/neurogenesis and implement the exercise mentioned in the book.


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I can still potentially get her to have sex with me, because I don't see her as girlfriend material but since she's a hoe, she might be down to ****.

So this is my idea of what to text her when she texts me back.

"Anyways, let's touch base again in December. Have a good Thanksgiving break. Maybe I can invite you over to my place and we can watch a movie if you're down."


Inviting a girl over implies sex, with making it too abrupt if that makes sense.

If she says no, then I don't have anything to lose because she's probably not girlfriend material anyways and we don't have enough in common for us to be friends.
 

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Update:

So I did wind up getting a text from her saying she'd rather be friends because she got the vibe that I was looking for something serious.

So I texted her back saying that I actually wasn't looking for anything serious and was looking for a casual short term FWB/fling and if she was down for that, then cool. If not, it's not a big deal to me.

Was it the right move? No clue. But hey, at least I got my feelings out there. I don't think she'd be down but hey you never know.
 

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Update:

So I did wind up getting a text from her saying she'd rather be friends because she got the vibe that I was looking for something serious.

So I texted her back saying that I actually wasn't looking for anything serious and was looking for a casual short term FWB/fling and if she was down for that, then cool. If not, it's not a big deal to me.

Was it the right move? No clue. But hey, at least I got my feelings out there. I don't think she'd be down but hey you never know.
Wrong move. The best response is:

"Good idea."

Then delete her number.
 

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- Iv'e met up twice with this girl from a blind date.
- I am almost 27 and a virgin who's never kissed, or been in a relationship.
- So I am pretty inexperienced when it comes to dating.
- I have no idea how to flirt or even kiss a girl (since I've never kissed)
- Our second time meeting up, it was at a bar downtown at around 8 PM.
For being so so innocent, why would you meet a girl at a bar at night? That's a sexually charged environment. I applaud you for having such courage.
 

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Whew, my man - it looks like you have some work to do. The good news is, it can be done. You mentioned you asked her for suggestions or some nonsense and I believe that is where you ****ed up.

You gotta take charge. Does she know you never ****ed before? I personally don't judge you bro it's all good.

At this point, I say **** it and just be vulnerable about your virginity and where you're at with chicks. Kissing is not that big of a deal. Hey, You might find some deranged cougar who wants to give you a blowie as your first experience.

don't ask me how I know this is possible
 

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I’m thinking about going out to some nightclubs come 2022 and try to practice being more sexual with women.

I heard it’s easy to kiss girls at nightclubs. Maybe I can get my first kiss from the nightclub. Who knows?
 

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If you guys aren't having frequent sex then shes not interested enough.
 

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Update:

Sorry i'm a little drunk right now and it's pretty late at night.

No she didn't like me back. I decided to go to a bar tonight and saw her there; she didn't even acknowledge my existence. Later, I saw her making out with a guy at the bar, smoking, and making out with a guy in the bathroom. I'm not even upset (yet, might be upset tomorrow). I dodged a bullet. I'm going to block her tomorrow.

And you know what? I'm grateful for it. Because i'm grateful that it's given me the motivation to work on myself. Work hard on my education, work hard on my body, work on my appearance, learn "game" so I don't always get friendzoned. And to all the women who wrote me off, told me I wasn't tall enough, told me I was too skinny, too nerdy, etc... I thank you. I thank you for giving me the motivation I needed to improve myself. It's about seeing the light in the darkness.

Women don't see the value in me? They're missing out. I'm 26 with already 500k in the bank and won't graduate with any student loans whatsoever, I work out regularly, I take my education seriously, I would make a loving and loyal boyfriend. Yeah i'm 5 ft 2, yeah i'm probably pretty average looking, but any woman who dates me is going to get a steal. I'm like Tom Brady; everyone initially passes on me, but i'll turn out to be a great boyfriend when I get my opportunity. Mark my words.

-mic drop-
 

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It's interesting though because during the summer, I signed up for an international dating site and actually had conversations with many women from different countries; particularly the Philippines. What I like about filipino girls is that they're very friendly and not flaky at all. I used to spend hours Facebook messaging these girls; they'd always respond within 5 minutes, would ask me questions, and were always willing to video chat. Many of them would even initiate chats as well, and tell me "good morning". And some of these girls, I would spend months texting them almost everyday, and occasionally video chat as well.
Because they want to use you to get the **** out of the Philippines. You need to learn a couple things before someone screws you over.
 

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-sigh- damnit, I really wanted this to be the year I get a girlfriend or at least have sex. Oh well, back to the drawing board.
From one high functioning autistic to another... It's all over rated. Peace and quiet to do what you want to do
is better than burning up days of your one and only life chasing tail.
 
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From one high functioning autistic to another... It's all over rated. Peace and quiet to do what you want to do
is better than burning up days of your one and only life chasing tail.
I just want to know what it’s like to have a normal dating life and normal sex life, for once in my life.

I wish I would of had a girlfriend when I was younger than 21 tbh. Because I think that experience would have made me less needy growing up which I think is a factor in the reason why I suck with women so much.

I’m nearly 27 and never even kissed a girl, let alone had sex or dated anybody, of course I’m needy.

I’m willing to make an account called “dating money” and put 10k in it and use it specifically for the purpose of trying to get a girlfriend/get laid. Because to be honest, I think if I’m still 30 and a virgin, I’m going to kill myself. So not only am I doing this to find some dating success, I’m trying to save my life.
 

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Update:

Sorry i'm a little drunk right now and it's pretty late at night.

No she didn't like me back. I decided to go to a bar tonight and saw her there; she didn't even acknowledge my existence. Later, I saw her making out with a guy at the bar, smoking, and making out with a guy in the bathroom. I'm not even upset (yet, might be upset tomorrow). I dodged a bullet. I'm going to block her tomorrow.

And you know what? I'm grateful for it. Because i'm grateful that it's given me the motivation to work on myself. Work hard on my education, work hard on my body, work on my appearance, learn "game" so I don't always get friendzoned. And to all the women who wrote me off, told me I wasn't tall enough, told me I was too skinny, too nerdy, etc... I thank you. I thank you for giving me the motivation I needed to improve myself. It's about seeing the light in the darkness.

Women don't see the value in me? They're missing out. I'm 26 with already 500k in the bank and won't graduate with any student loans whatsoever, I work out regularly, I take my education seriously, I would make a loving and loyal boyfriend. Yeah i'm 5 ft 2, yeah i'm probably pretty average looking, but any woman who dates me is going to get a steal. I'm like Tom Brady; everyone initially passes on me, but i'll turn out to be a great boyfriend when I get my opportunity. Mark my words.

-mic drop-
Horse, do DO all that stuff to improve. It's important.

You will be able to do women well at some point, probably better than naturals.

Most men go from the look and feel, meaning it just comes naturally for them. Even when they think they don't get it, they have NO idea what it means when someone in the spectrum says they don't get it. They just don't, because they have no context to know.

You will need to get an academic understanding of women from a red pill viewpoint. Use this forum and also read all of these recommended books on this page. https://www.reddit.com/r/marriedredpill/. The books are referenced on the lower right side, read them all. You're not married, but the reading list from this site is very good. You will be amazed at how women actually function in the mind. From the knowledge and with some guidance in this forum you likely can get going in a positive direction about women. It's not going to be super fast...

As you read the info, it's ok to ask questions here. Many or most of the men have experience with all sorts of issues and caused by women. As usual, you should apply some common sense filter as sometimes we get silly and go overboard on some topics.

Think, groundhog day.... and once you get it right, you can do it every time.
 

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I just want to know what it’s like to have a normal dating life and normal sex life, for once in my life.

I wish I would of had a girlfriend when I was younger than 21 tbh. Because I think that experience would have made me less needy growing up which I think is a factor in the reason why I suck with women so much.

I’m nearly 27 and never even kissed a girl, let alone had sex or dated anybody, of course I’m needy.

I’m willing to make an account called “dating money” and put 10k in it and use it specifically for the purpose of trying to get a girlfriend/get laid. Because to be honest, I think if I’m still 30 and a virgin, I’m going to kill myself. So not only am I doing this to find some dating success, I’m trying to save my life.
10k pays for a LOT of escorts. If you just want to dip your wick then that's better than buying endless dinners and drinks for
entitled millennial b1tches who will happily soak up your hospitality but when it comes down to it baulk at soaking up your jiz.
Go and bang some ho's dude. Also, they will take the lead until you feel comfortable doing so yourself, you get that physical
experience you crave without any of the mind games. Spend a thousand on hookers and keep the 9k change in with your half
million. I was off work yesterday and felt a bit lonesome/horny. Seriously considered an hour with a professional yesterday but
banged one out over some p0rn instead and got back to my video game realising in my post nut clarity that I'd sooner keep the
money in my pocket anyway. Like you I am very financially comfortable, but unlike you I have had (100% fail rate) relationships
and a marriage (also 100% fail rate) and here I am by myself again realising the futility of it all. In your situation however, I'd go
the ho route and get it out of my system. At your current rate of progress, you'll be a millionaire in about 8 to 10 years and still
under 40 years old, and trust me on this one they will be beating your door down for a piece of you. You'll be the one doing the
selecting.
 

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10k pays for a LOT of escorts. If you just want to dip your wick then that's better than buying endless dinners and drinks for
entitled millennial b1tches who will happily soak up your hospitality but when it comes down to it baulk at soaking up your jiz.
Go and bang some ho's dude. Also, they will take the lead until you feel comfortable doing so yourself, you get that physical
experience you crave without any of the mind games. Spend a thousand on hookers and keep the 9k change in with your half
million. I was off work yesterday and felt a bit lonesome/horny. Seriously considered an hour with a professional yesterday but
banged one out over some p0rn instead and got back to my video game realising in my post nut clarity that I'd sooner keep the
money in my pocket anyway. Like you I am very financially comfortable, but unlike you I have had (100% fail rate) relationships
and a marriage (also 100% fail rate) and here I am by myself again realising the futility of it all. In your situation however, I'd go
the ho route and get it out of my system. At your current rate of progress, you'll be a millionaire in about 8 to 10 years and still
under 40 years old, and trust me on this one they will be beating your door down for a piece of you. You'll be the one doing the
selecting.
this girl I was pursuing was definitely a hoe but either she was never attracted to me in the first place or I f’d up somewhere along the way due to my inexperience.
 

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No, I mean actual money paid for sex type hoes dude.
Then you can literally ask for whatever turns you on and get the experiences you crave without any of the mindgames.
 

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No, I mean actual money paid for sex type hoes dude.
Then you can literally ask for whatever turns you on and get the experiences you crave without any of the mindgames.
Unfortunately, prostitution is illegal in my country and the nearest place where it's legal is 20+ hours away.

I actually seriously considered going that route in 2018 but at the time, didn't have a lot of money, plus the very long distance.

The strip club is the next best option.
 
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