"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is this dude a chump when it comes to relationships?

Travel memoir21

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Okay he’s a great guy and an Afghanistan combat Veteran….but I just think he’s an idealist when it comes to relationships. What do you guys think? Here’s a quote from him when it came to a particular woman and here’s his meme about her.

‘I think one of the things that she used to get frustrated about is that I’d never initiate sex, even if I didn’t shy away from intimacy. I wanted her to know she was in complete control of that aspect of our relationship, because I wanted her to get a feel for her own agency and autonomy—her ability to make decisions and say yes or no. For me, it really wasn’t at all about the sex. It was because she made me feel alive again just by looking at me the way she did. Where everyone else held nothing but contempt in their eyes for me, hers were full of wonder. I could tell she really loved me.’

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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Some nice guys “overcorrect.” It’s not uncommon.
Sometimes they have a father (or brother or other male figure) who was a player/bad boy type or possibly abusive. But what the nice guy “sees” is a hyper sexual sleazy bastard to women. And the nice guy unconsciously or consciously decides “I’m never gonna be like him. I’m going to respect women.” And, despite good intentions, the nice guy takes it so far that he forgets that women have a sexual side too.
 
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This is a guy who doesn't understand women very well. A woman wants to feel desired. Its a basic need. A man initiating sex makes her feel valued and desired. She will think something is wrong with her when you don't. It's also why they like men who take the lead. Its what healthy masculine men do.

Feminine women don't want to make all the decisions, they don't want autonomy.

Women are turned on by men who go after what they want. Its pretty much universal.

@Travel memoir21 your approach towards dating is similar. You see these girls as someone you want to talk to and approach slowly with out any sexual desire towards them. They will detect this quickly and see you as weak and put you in the friend zone if you ever get that far.
 
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