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Is this chick a TOTAL HEAD CASE? Should i keep macking her???

Tantric

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what da fvck...

i don't get it.

I hit it off okay last week with a chick from my school..she's a HB9. I had the usual ****iness going, and negs...but i couldn't tell what her interest level was and as a result, i didn't # close (slap!)...i know, i know...should have done that right away, but something didn't feel right.

Anyway, i got to school today knowing that i was going to chat it up again and go for the # close. Our class got switched, so her and i ended up getting to school 1 1/2 hours early. She said "hi" as she entered the room, and began to show me her bruised knee. She went out drinking the night before and couldn't remember how she got it...I of course started to make a slight "sexual" joke about it...she laughed. Anyway I didn't want to hang around, so i asked her if she wanted to go for a drink before class.

We ended up going to a restaurant and having a couple beers. I negged her a few times and tried keeping the convo about her...this is what i found out:

-She went to Vegas on the weekend to visit her ex...who happens to be in jail.

RED LIGHT!!!

They are/have been together for 2 years. She kept changing what she called him...first it was her "ex", then her "BF", then her "ex". As soon as she started to talk about him...i immediatly started to change the subject. I also dissed him a bit. Apparantly when he gets out of jail, he's going to move here to LA...

SHE BEGAN TO TALK ABOUT HIM AS HER "EX" BF, BUT EVEN MENTIONING HIM IS A DISS, NO?

-she asked me if i had a GF. I am single, but i was pretty vague on the answer. She also asked now that i'm new in the city, if i've met people here, and said, "yeah", and suggested we hook up sometime. The response i got from her was "yeah we should". But it was more of a "yeah whatever" vibe...i didn't get any sense of her being intrested...

DISS????

-she moved to LA because she was getting herself in trouble in Vegas...lots of drinking (vodka) and partying. Sounded like she was an alcoholic. She also mentioned that it was technically her fault the her BF is in jail. She moved here to start over, but still goes out to party.

YIKES!!

-we got into a casual sex convo, which involved her revealing she's had a 3-way. She also revealed that she always goes brazillian, and she just got lazer hair removal done. She showed me her arm, and i applied the necesary kino (hee hee), lightly rubbing her arm to feel how smooth it was. I also mentioned that most guys don't know what they are doing when it comes to sex...she agreed.(i figure a comment like this would get her thinking that I KNOW what i am doing...which i do of course :))

ALL VERY NICE

-she complained about how almost every guy she's been with
tells her that they are in love with her within a few weeks. i took advantage of that, and dissed those guys, stating that they were
pussies (normally i wouldn't use that terminology, but the way the convo was going i figured it was okay)

NICE AGAIN

-the class we were about to go to shows some introductory massage techniques. I told her how i studied massage for 1 year and mentioned/joked that my hands were like "fine instruments"...She then gave me a "jerking off" motion with her arms, as she NEGGED ME...she then took a drink of her beer and commented, "we'll see".

HMMMM

-she said she gets along better with guys then with girls, and I negged her a bit throughout the convo, talked about her hair colour, and mentioned that she should try going a light brown, than blonde, as thought it would look cooler. There was actually a bit of negging back and forth. Whole convo was about 1 1/2 hrs.

At the end of it all, we made tentative plans to hook up tomorrow at school to do a review before class. I would have preferred to do her...i mean the REVIEW ;) at my place, but there is only 1 hr. between classes.

When we got to class she rolled up her pants again and showed me her bruise...i applied the necessary kino. She started negging ME again, so (jokingly), i called her a bytch. It was obviously a joke, but she came back with, "you call me a bytch again, and you are going to fuking feel it!"

WTF?????!!!!!!!

So all of a sudden, i feel like a COMPLETE A$$HOLE...thinking that all the negging i've been doing on this HB9 has created an OPPOSITE EFFECT!!!! Maybe she was taking the negging seriously???

Anyway, after that i didn't want to # close AT ALL!!!! I actually felt really sh1tty, like i was a complete d1ck, and then got pi$$ed off at myself thinking i should cut my losses. The main reason why closing AGAIN didn't feel right is that i felt NO connection WHATSOEVER!!!! I COULD NOT READ HER AT ALL!!! Sure we were talking about sex and we were both pretty open about stuff, but i think that's just her and my personality.

The only good thing about the day is that another guy from class asked how it is that i know all the women in the school. He commented that he was usually really shy around girls, and joked about he should hang out with me more...at least the DJ skills are paying off somewhere!

Is this chick a head case? Do i cut my losses and back off completely? Or is that a bad thing? i dunno, part of my doesn;t even care whether or not i talk to her at all...but that could be just be a overreaction to the days events.

ANY advice or thoughts would be awesome...
 

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whoaa! back up stud, calling a chick you are trying to DJ a Byatch?? and you just met her? not smoove

she sounds like a party girl..and chicks who drink too much (especially vodka) are VERY easy

dont worry about the # close..it will set you apart from the other guys who meet her, fall in love, and immediately ask for her #

I think NOT asking for her # was an actual NEG HIT

dont worry about her ex..he is in Jail..and she is hundreds of miles from him..

you also have an advantage because she doesnt know too many people..since she is new in town

chicks like this are used to abusive treatment..but you are going a little overboard with being a "jerk" vs c/f
 

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Thanks Starman...

Actually whne i called her a bytch, we were both smiling, so it was more "playful" than anything...obviously she took it a bit more serious...is it something i should clear up tomorrow...let her know i was just joking?

I agree with you on going "overboard"...obviously that wasn't my intention.

Any ideas of what to do next? Or at least "improve" my situation?
 

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man this girl sounds like a load of trouble

first off, she ssays it was her fault her b/f is in jail..this is probably due to some drug charges..or he might have beat her up..and she pressed charges?

second, when her ex gets out of jail..you never know what kind of whack job he is if he is dealing with this psycho chick..if he finds out you've been mackin his lady..you might have to start watching your back

now back on topic

In my experience..everytime I went overboard with a girl, I NEVER apologized for my behavior (that is supplicating) but I made comments along the lines of "hey I hope you didnt take what I said to heart..you know Im always Joking"

keep doing what you are doing..and mention some other ladies in your life "you remind me of this girl Ive been dating..blah blah"

your target is def an attention wh0re and needs to know she isnt the center of your universe..and that you are indifferent if you hook up or not..

do the Push-Pull technique..show her attention..then begin ignoring her..

let us know what happens
 

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I wouldn't bother clearing up the biatch comment. If she took it seriously even though you were having a playful conversation / smiling etc... then it's her problem, not yours.

Just ignore it, go about your usual friendly way with her like nothing has happened. If she brings it up, just tell her u didnt realise she was so emotionally unstable and would take things so personally :)

But that's just me. I don't let down or back off or appologise for my actions. Ive called plenty of chicks biatches and some have even told me to fuk off, i just keep my kewl, keep smiling, keep playing the game and they are the ones who usually appologise.

She could just be testing you ?

My advice, just go about ur flirting with her like her overreacting never occured. It's not an issue for you, only for her - if it is an issue at all.

Go get her :)
 

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Yeah, i definitly agree with both of you. I wouldn't apologize per se, but something like, "i hope i didn't offend you the other day, i was just kidding."...which is along the lines of what Starman was saying. just don't wanna be like every other AFC apologizing to the HB becasue they screwed up, or something stupid like that. I figure i'll play it by ear. If she approaches me tomorrow, than i'll leave it, but if she's giving a bit of a cold shoulder i may do what you said.

Attention Wh0re...You DEF hit the nail on the head with that one! i could sense it from the day i met her.

I'll keep flirting with her, but kick back on the negs for a while...I'll also keep talking with the other girls in class as well.

I thought it might have been a bit early for the push/pull technique, but after thinking about it, i'm the only guy that really talks/flirts with her...could work to my advantage...

thanks for your input guys...i'll keep you posted.
 

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HERE'S THE UPDATE!!!

Here's the update...

To answer my OWN title in the Subject Line...

YES, she IS a headcase...and NO i should NOT keep macking her...

When i got to school, she gave me a small "hello" (i was standing near the entrance in convo with another girl at the time). I made eye contact and she casually said "hi", i returned it.

I didn't see her for a couple hours after that, but when i did she went to BIATCH mode!!!

I was sitting in convo with someone accross from me, and as she entered the room, i made eye-contact and smiled...she returned NOTHING, and proceeded to sit next to me. She started convo with the person accross from her, and didn't even acknowledge the fact that i was in the ROOM...this whole "cold shoulder" shyte lasted for about 4 hours. I attempted on a couple more occasions to make eye-contact, or at least say SOMETHING, but she returned NOTHING! It actually really pissed me off.

I thought i might have been reading into the whole thing, but one of the guys in class commented afterwards...apparantly this "cold shoulder" thing was EXTREMELY evident.

Sounds like a game or test...

Obviously i''m NEXTING this chick, but WTF! She's now hanging out with the same group i do...do i play this whole "cold shoulder" thing back and ignore her, or do i bring it up...

I think bringing it up is AFC...it's like i'm SHOWING i care or something...at the same time, giving her shyte back seems AFC too.

Any ideas?
 

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One word: Detachment

One of Player supreme post talked about the "state of being". In this midst of this chick you want to show her that you are not affected by her ignoring you. This will show her one thing, that you will not be like the others and apologize or kiss ass for a pretty face.

She may snap out of it, she may not. But if I were you, then I will ignore like she doesn't exist and watch what happens. Attention hoes can't stand when a man don't acknowledge them. This to her will showed that you have CONTROL and she will be drawn to it like flies to sh*t.
 

Tantric

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Yeah, i think you're spot on with that one eyecandie...

Now that i think about it, i remember reading that post...

AFC would show that he's affected (apologizing, trying to start covno, "showing" he's upset.

DJ would not...afterall, she's just 1 chick out the 4,000,000 others...no big deal.
 
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