is this a true statement:

[cola]

If you focus on you and improving yourself females will come naturally

 

[backseatjuan]

No, because women don't approach.

You have to go get them.

Focusing on improving yourself improves your value and betters your chances of attracting better women.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

If you focus on you and improving yourself females will come naturally

No.

You have to improve in all aspects of your life as well as your looks, grooming, style, working out and being social and confident in yourself. Not needing a chick to give you confidence. No matter even if a lot do like you already.

You could improve everything but be sitting in your house...Are chicks going to line up at your front door because you improved yourself? No.

You have to go out and meet them. Small talk. Be social. Confident in yourself. Meet different people. Say hi. Smile.

Everyday dudes who've never heard of this site or bothered with PUA nonsense go out and socialize, meet chicks on their own, through work, friends etc. You can to.

 

[cola]

No, I have no problem pulling naughty.. I guess im to the point I don't feel like it anymore.
I mean its cycle, its like they all act the same! Its ****ing boring now. Its like the same person with a different physical appearance.. they are predictable! Im tired of pick up.. I mean im 23 but ive been with atleast 40 girls..
If you pay attention to my threads lately I guess the theme is I don't feel like entertaining these women no more.

 

[Naughty Ninja]

No, I have no problem pulling naughty.. I guess im to the point I don't feel like it anymore.
I mean its cycle, its like they all act the same! Its ****ing boring now. Its like the same person with a different physical appearance.. they are predictable! Im tired of pick up.. I mean im 23 but ive been with atleast 40 girls..
If you pay attention to my threads lately I guess the theme is I don't feel like entertaining these women no more.

So take time off and do your own things. When you feel like it again then go for them. No big deal. No one says you HAVE to keep going after chicks constantly unless they feel the need to "prove" something to themselves by doing so.

Does this thread have anything to do with your other thread about chicks who say they are celibate?

 

[cola]

No .. thatbwas another isolated incident i just wanted other peoples opinion
Celibate to me usually means ex wh0re

 

[Naughty Ninja]

No .. thatbwas another isolated incident i just wanted other peoples opinion
Celibate to me usually means ex wh0re

lmao! I didn't want to say that but that's EXACTLY what I was thinking and why I mentioned questioning quickly to see if she wants to fvck or not...in a subtle "interested in her choice of celibacy" way.

 

[Fly By Night]

I will have to say yes and no. The few girls who actually work up the nerve to approach will approach you when given the chance. But improving yourself, like backseatjuan said, just makes you more valuable and you wouldn't get blown off as much. Wouldn't a HB9 catch your attention over a HB6?

Exactly. That's why we encourage guys to get hobbies and hit the gym.

 

[nismo-4]

Totally false.

You have to do the approaching. Sometimes, women will approach, but it's very rare, barring strip clubs and hookers/ escorts. Remember that women always have options. And it's always great to better yourself.

Case closed.

 

[zekko]

You have to do the approaching. Sometimes, women will approach, but it's very rare.

If by "approach", you mean run a stacked routine with the intent to get a makeout, number close, or one night stand, I agree that it's pretty rare (Lol, she comes up and says "Hey guys, I need to get back to my friends in a minute, but I wanted to get your opinion on something. Who is sexier, Shakira or Katy Perry?").

But if you're out living life, doing things, or at a social event, women will talk to you. They'll talk to you if you're around and it seems natural. It's kind of like a situational opener, except I doubt very much that they consider it an "opener". It's more like you're there, and they say "Hey, look at this" or whatever.

So rather than say you have to do the approach, I'd say you have to be willing to meet them in the middle. If there's attraction, you may have to be the one to take the extra step and ask for the number, or say "Hey, if you like this, let's go do that".

So in that sense I'd say yes, the OP's statement is true. It's just that there are conditions on it. Like Ninja says, you can't just sit at home lifting weights waiting for women to smell the testosterone and come knocking on your door.

 

[floydb25]

Depends on what you're talking about, and if what you're doing is appealing to women. There is a lot of truth in the independence / indifferent / single-minded theory, but it still has to indirectly involve women. For instance, being social, out-going, confident, popular, taking care of your appearance, and those kind of things. When you arent bothered by women, arent fawning over their advances, just enjoying yourself, have a take it or leave it attitude, and so on - they go crazy for that ****. They definitely will approach, too, as they view you as high status. You're a cool guy, people like you, but you arent bothered by women. Not that you're intimidated by them, or cant get them - quite the opposite.

This isnt much different when you have a hot girl who dresses sexy, gets a lot of attention from men, but isnt bothered by them, and focuses on herself. She still has a lot of value - just by how she carries herself.

Perception is really everything. And having good looks helps a lot - for both genders. Nobody cares if a plain Jane or average Joe is doing this ****, and kiss my ass if you believe otherwise. The inherent value has to be there, and a good looking person is automatically viewed as in-demand. So, when they act like this, and have these things going on for them, and are focusing on themselves - they obviously have standards, arent easily impressed, can get women if they wanted to, and so forth. Thus, their value goes up. Its just the way people think.

A lot of this **** is really just perception, and you find out how fake / shallow people can be... Their obsession with status, and things like that. But this applies to both genders. ****, I was just as guilty as the women.

But if you're talking about focusing on your education or career and improving yourself through hobbies, mental training, health, and those kind of things - then no, nothing is going to change. It still has to indirectly involve women, and appeal to them. So you have to still be social, confident, presentable, "sexy", etc. Otherwise, they arent going to care about your "self improvement" ****. Not that they do, anyway - just the value you present.

 

[alphamailman]

No, especially if you are in the middle of nowhere!