Hi guys,just put in a thread yesturday about this woman I,m seeing going to see her ex in prison for a weekend.Now today she,s telling me that an ex-boyfriend of hers that she still pals around with is asking her to go to New York with him for a day or so from Florida.I don,t recall how long ago they,ve been broken up,and she,s telling me that she,s thinking on going.Now I was at work and didn,t want to get in to a heated discussion on it,but I was furious.Is this a mind game she,s playing to test how far she can push the issue,and if it is can I get some input on how the masters would handle it.I,m just getting fed up with it already and just ready to move on,I don,t need these childish games anymore.Thanks for any and every reply...
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.
is this a game
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"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
RAFCbearfilm
Don Juan
Hey Conan,
This is not a flame but the truth - If you have to say she is visiting old boyfriends in (JAIL?) for the weekend or going away with them for the weekend then she is probably not that interested.
Nothing to me is more of an indicator of low interest than her having sex with someone else.
If you are cool with that then fine, but I have to think by your posting here that you are not so, let it go or move on.
This is not a flame but the truth - If you have to say she is visiting old boyfriends in (JAIL?) for the weekend or going away with them for the weekend then she is probably not that interested.
Nothing to me is more of an indicator of low interest than her having sex with someone else.
If you are cool with that then fine, but I have to think by your posting here that you are not so, let it go or move on.
legolas
Master Don Juan
It may be a test, it may not be. In fact she dosen't even know whether it's a test or not. She's followinmg her emotions, remember? The real question is, if you were furious and didn't let her know, she's gonna assume you're ok with it, and then it becomes a test in her mind, or she gets the impression that you are somewhat needy.
NewMan
Master Don Juan
Why the hell are you with this chick?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Women have girlfriends and boyfriends. If you're not fukking her, you're her girlfriend.
So I guess the next question should be, "How's it going with all those other women you're seeing at the same time you're 'seeing' this one?"
Options man, options. The only reason this woman is even a blip on your radar is because you don't have other options. Your time would be better spent exploring newer prospects than trying to untangle the head of a woman running around with the "prison crowd."
So I guess the next question should be, "How's it going with all those other women you're seeing at the same time you're 'seeing' this one?"
Options man, options. The only reason this woman is even a blip on your radar is because you don't have other options. Your time would be better spent exploring newer prospects than trying to untangle the head of a woman running around with the "prison crowd."
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Bad positioning, definitely.
It really IS a game. A football game even. You're the ****in Center who hikes the ball off to her, and you get no action. Really. She's the quarterback with the hand tucked under your nuts, but she makes the calls and gets all the attention when the game's done.
**** THAT.
Take control. And that means... in this case... MOVE ON.
Want another analogy? Here: :kick:
It really IS a game. A football game even. You're the ****in Center who hikes the ball off to her, and you get no action. Really. She's the quarterback with the hand tucked under your nuts, but she makes the calls and gets all the attention when the game's done.
**** THAT.
Take control. And that means... in this case... MOVE ON.
Want another analogy? Here: :kick:
SoCalMike
Senior Don Juan
ex in prison? "visiting" other guys?
Holy sh*t man, run like hell! Seriously, get rid of her ASAP. You don't need this kind of BS.
She sounds like a dirty tramp to me. Trust me, I know this type - she's a wh*re and she wants you to put up with it.
Holy sh*t man, run like hell! Seriously, get rid of her ASAP. You don't need this kind of BS.
She sounds like a dirty tramp to me. Trust me, I know this type - she's a wh*re and she wants you to put up with it.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
So Many Ways
Master Don Juan
Come on man, find your self-respect.
Find a woman that actually likes you.
Find a woman that actually likes you.