Hi guys,just put in a thread yesturday about this woman I,m seeing going to see her ex in prison for a weekend.Now today she,s telling me that an ex-boyfriend of hers that she still pals around with is asking her to go to New York with him for a day or so from Florida.I don,t recall how long ago they,ve been broken up,and she,s telling me that she,s thinking on going.Now I was at work and didn,t want to get in to a heated discussion on it,but I was furious.Is this a mind game she,s playing to test how far she can push the issue,and if it is can I get some input on how the masters would handle it.I,m just getting fed up with it already and just ready to move on,I don,t need these childish games anymore.Thanks for any and every reply...
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
is this a game
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"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.
RAFCbearfilm
Don Juan
Hey Conan,
This is not a flame but the truth - If you have to say she is visiting old boyfriends in (JAIL?) for the weekend or going away with them for the weekend then she is probably not that interested.
Nothing to me is more of an indicator of low interest than her having sex with someone else.
If you are cool with that then fine, but I have to think by your posting here that you are not so, let it go or move on.
This is not a flame but the truth - If you have to say she is visiting old boyfriends in (JAIL?) for the weekend or going away with them for the weekend then she is probably not that interested.
Nothing to me is more of an indicator of low interest than her having sex with someone else.
If you are cool with that then fine, but I have to think by your posting here that you are not so, let it go or move on.
legolas
Master Don Juan
It may be a test, it may not be. In fact she dosen't even know whether it's a test or not. She's followinmg her emotions, remember? The real question is, if you were furious and didn't let her know, she's gonna assume you're ok with it, and then it becomes a test in her mind, or she gets the impression that you are somewhat needy.
NewMan
Master Don Juan
Why the hell are you with this chick?
Rollo Tomassi
Master Don Juan
Women have girlfriends and boyfriends. If you're not fukking her, you're her girlfriend.
So I guess the next question should be, "How's it going with all those other women you're seeing at the same time you're 'seeing' this one?"
Options man, options. The only reason this woman is even a blip on your radar is because you don't have other options. Your time would be better spent exploring newer prospects than trying to untangle the head of a woman running around with the "prison crowd."
So I guess the next question should be, "How's it going with all those other women you're seeing at the same time you're 'seeing' this one?"
Options man, options. The only reason this woman is even a blip on your radar is because you don't have other options. Your time would be better spent exploring newer prospects than trying to untangle the head of a woman running around with the "prison crowd."
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
Bad positioning, definitely.
It really IS a game. A football game even. You're the ****in Center who hikes the ball off to her, and you get no action. Really. She's the quarterback with the hand tucked under your nuts, but she makes the calls and gets all the attention when the game's done.
**** THAT.
Take control. And that means... in this case... MOVE ON.
Want another analogy? Here: :kick:
It really IS a game. A football game even. You're the ****in Center who hikes the ball off to her, and you get no action. Really. She's the quarterback with the hand tucked under your nuts, but she makes the calls and gets all the attention when the game's done.
**** THAT.
Take control. And that means... in this case... MOVE ON.
Want another analogy? Here: :kick:
SoCalMike
Senior Don Juan
ex in prison? "visiting" other guys?
Holy sh*t man, run like hell! Seriously, get rid of her ASAP. You don't need this kind of BS.
She sounds like a dirty tramp to me. Trust me, I know this type - she's a wh*re and she wants you to put up with it.
Holy sh*t man, run like hell! Seriously, get rid of her ASAP. You don't need this kind of BS.
She sounds like a dirty tramp to me. Trust me, I know this type - she's a wh*re and she wants you to put up with it.
"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"
I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.
The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.
Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.
So Many Ways
Master Don Juan
Come on man, find your self-respect.
Find a woman that actually likes you.
Find a woman that actually likes you.