"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Is there such a thing as waiting too long to call?

decentguy

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I know to wait at least 4 or 5 days before calling a girl.
I got a girl's phone number about 10 days ago and intend on calling her today. I've known her for a bit and she has shown interest in me.

Is there a point at which her interest level starts to go down if you wait too long to call her?
 

"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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djinhell

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This whole phone game thing is so fragile. Most people on this board will say the longer u leave it the better...but I still feel that if theres a good vibe with the chick, its fine to call her much earlier!

Problem with ten days is it gives enough time for any flame ignited to die down.

good luck though!

Dj In Hell
 

StevenR

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I waited a couple days after a first date with a kiss close on my current gf before calling her again, and we have discussed this since we became serious. She told me that if I had waited any longer she would have thought I had lost interest and moved on. Don't call her like a few hours after, but IMO waiting 10 days and she isn't even going to remember who you are. I would say optimally 1-3 days but of course every woman and interaction is probably different.
 

decentguy

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I've known her for 4 months so I doubt she will forget who I am ;-)
Couldn't get with her because I had a girlfriend but now I'm single.
 

StevenR

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It dosen't hurt to try then. I wouldn't wait any longer if it has already been 10 days.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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