"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Is there hope for past loser?

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Hi guys (and girls) and gents,

I have very serious problem: I don't know how to socialize! I've got a shozoid personality (I think): I'm introverted, don't want others to order me what to do and so on.
My potential friends til yet (I'm going to be 28 in near future) only took use of me. I know that people choose others as friends who have high value. As long as I have higher value than them, they take use of me. Afterwards, they leave me alone and isolate me. So, I didn't have true friends til yet. I also haven't having a typical guy's life and lifestyle. Usually, guys go out, meet each other regularly, go eating together, meeting women (--> clubs, pubs/bars, and so on), going to events. They spend and spent their free time with each other. But at me, they search for excuses, whenever I call anyone of my acquaintances.

About me: I seem to be serious. But whenever I try (hard) to be funny, I come off as goofy-silly,I can't make others laugh. I can't watch it from others being funny, cause I don't know others.

Well, I haven't got such experience. If it is about women/girls, I just try to connect with them. I don't talk if it is not needed- to anyone. And at the opposite sex, I used a routine, and it worked sometimes. But all in all, after approaching, I failed. Some girls even awaited more from me. But I had the empty hole in my head and searching for ideas what to talk about. But I couldn't find anything. I'm missing the ability to improvisate. Mostly, girls reject me in clubs and search for excuses. Maybe, overweight could be a reason. On the other hand, I don't get it why anywhere else, even very fat guys (even much more fatter than me) succeed and go hand in hand with HB10s.
All in all, I need for everything an instruction, an algorithm, a shedule or so on.

While I have no social life, I seem having very bad chances. How to cure all of this? Can I find (an attractive) love-mate/soulmate/woman anytime with my attributes? What about pickup community? What about the mystery method or the emotional progression model? Or Mark Manson?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Sounds like your biggest problem is confidence.

If you were more confident you could probably turn the "goofy silly" thing into "your thing" and it would become funny, but that will only happen if you yourself have confidence when you do it.

The "I don't talk if it is not needed- to anyone" is a problem I had a very long time ago. Sounds like you are like I was in that you have trouble making small talk. You have to be able to literally talk to anyone about anything. Even if it's the most boring stereotypical small talk subject, the weather. If you have to start with that then do it.

The best thing for you may be to go out and first work on making small talk with other guys. Or women too. But guys may be a good place to start. That way there is no pressure on yourself..

Also see what you can do with this "goofy silly" thing. Work on saying it with more confidence and really take notice to how people act.

It will take time and practice but I think you can do it.
 

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Thx for your rapid answer. Well, confidence was there. I'm still trying it. It's not difficult for me to approach women either. With guys, I also don't know what to talk about. So, I don't get in panic in front of women cause I don't put pressure on myself.
It's in general so. Small talk is needed, yes. But the "How to go on next" is my problem.
How did you cure your social and conversational problems?

What about Roger Curie or David Wygant?
 

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I firmly believe logicallefty touched on a very good attribute- probably the most important: confidence. And it's not only about being confident externally, but internally; i.e. being all right and comfortable under your own skin and thoughts to just let it fly out there but coming from within. Socializing is akin to opening up communication channels that wouldn't open without a trigger: you. You're the stimulus. Someone can try a chat with you, though if you aren't in tune, comfortable, and available, they probably will end up feeling awkward and not want to try it again, which is why confidence is of paramount importance. Be courageous, open up, talk with everyone, talk with yourself, learn about yourself, and above all, don't be afraid of social fear. Let it out and I feel you'll come to enjoy it; when you enjoy it, others notice. You'll be just fine- trust me.
 

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That's exactly what I did til yet. And I was always told to be myself and I could any day find someone who is like me. In other words: Too many people are different than I am. Til yet, it didn't work. I still am confident but I am different than others and people tend to go for people who are similar to them.
In other words: I've tried years to be myself. But there comes a point where you have to admit to go another way than you did til yet, if you don't succeed.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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If hope is not a method, why did you write it here? So, you need hope in life, but hope won't get you further? Come on.
Your comment seems to be misleading/senseless.
 

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Hope is no more than a sentiment. If it gets you to do something, great.

Because it's doing something about your situation that will change it.

Right now, you are ruminating - thinking and hoping. So do things, lots of little things.
 
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Tictac is right: don't be passive with sentiments (and we all have at one point or another); instead, be active. Take action. Put it out there and don't worry; can't control the future, but you know that.
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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