"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is there being overly unneedy?

RedKnight04

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Okay, now I got my dress down to a science and I've been starting to get my feet wet. I'm telling you if you read my dressing post on the other tips forum - follow them they help alot. Anyway the dressing is only half the battle so let me explain what I mean by too UNNEEDY.

I took this girl out the other night after we talked a little off the personals. Anyway I wanted to go to a gaming place like a fun miniture golf thing or whatever so I thought well how about it. So we went over and ended up meeting before.

NOW - first she called and told me she was going to be 10 minutes late. So allready I popped into my routine of questioning it but not giving it a hard time except busting her on it when we meet.

So she comes a little later then me and I was sitting down and was amazed how hot she was. I said wow you are tall! I didn't so I was too NEEDY by sparky out compliments. I figured that was the way too go. Anyways the night goes on and I was talking alot which I had to admit but she looked interested. She wasn't asking me questions I was just telling her confident things about my job, my family, my life. Okay maybe that wasn't the best idea.

I on the otherhand was also asking good questions. Anyways I heard her talk indirectly about future meetings but I shut my mouth b/c I wasn't too NEEDY. So then she asks, (it was sunday) if she can call it a night b/c she has a test tommorow (that was the reason her ass was late i forgot to mention - she was studying, how lame :). )

So we walked back to our cars and I busted on her about her ride and said I couldn't talk to somebody who drove that, so she says okay, and I gave a sly smile.

Anyhew, and honestly, I don't give a **** because I don't have the ego anymore to get caught up on one girl. But maybe I was too UNNEEDY, I mean is there such a thing? What is the balance? What is the drawing point? You do not want to act like you want to sleep with them but what do you do?
 

"Stop Asking Your Friends What to Text Her"

Your buddy Dave has been single for three years and thinks "hey u up" is a valid strategy. Your other buddy Mike just got dumped and told you to "just be yourself."

You showed them her text. You asked them to decode the emoji. You drafted four responses and sent the screenshot to the group chat for a vote.

She's been waiting forty minutes.

Put the phone down. Stop crowdsourcing your love life. Type something that sounds like you. Hit send. Then go do literally anything else with your evening.

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RedKnight04

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I forgot to add what happened LOL

I called her and left a messaging that I was touching base and saying hi. and for her to call me back and that was it. I haven't heard back.

???
 

Walk this Way

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Studying is a lame excuse even among the most studious girls, especially to end a date. That's a pretty bad sign. You were fine, she just wasn't interested. Seriously, if you try to act macho or ultraconfident, it's just not going to work.
 

white_hype

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seems like there was a lack of interest, i blame you for bringing up boring topics and doing most of the talking

hot girl=bust on her a lot...

when she came late you could have easily busted (you had 10 mins to think of something)

here are some i just came up with in 10 secs
"wow for showing up so late you could have at least taken a shower or something"

"you better be worth the wait"


when you said that comment about her car and she said "ok" that is NOT good.. this shows she doesnt really care what happens with you/her

she "seemed" interested? you need to get yourself to the point where she is laughing a lot and you are continually busting on her and NOT bragging/talking about boring stuff like your job/school (you should RARELY talk about school, its the last thing students want to talk about, turst me)

hope this helps
 

AlwaysExcel

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I don't know about CONTINUALLY busting on a girl. There is a point where you come off as trying too hard. I think you should be able to hold an interesting conversation peppered with C&F but not overuse it. Or use a lot of humor but don't direct it all at her.
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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If a girl is not interested from the get-go then there is nothing you can do - just don't try to impress her by talking about yourself or trying to be too funny. Also, you should cut the date short not her!
 
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