“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

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Is there anything that can help my (extremely) AFC friend?

blackomen

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OK, I'm still somewhat AFC right now.. but this guy really takes the cake in AFCness.. I'm not that great with telling stories so please bear with me.

I met this older friend in college when he was working on his MBA at the same school. He started dating this girl (my classmate) several years ago when she was still jailbait (she started college a few years earlier.) He was about 30 at the time and basically wanted to go the "friends" route to make this 16-17 year old girl his girlfriend. He went on several dates with her and did a lot of things with her (like studying, eating ,etc.) but nothing of a sexual or romantic nature ever. He saw her almost every day or at least every week during the first semester of her freshman year but they never went any further.

Fast forward 3 years later (now)..

She's now graduating but without any job prospects so she's contemplating moving home with her parents. He's also without a job despite finishing his MBA a year earlier (economy's a *****, I digress.) Although he's moved to another town to find a job, he's been constantly worrying about his "relationship" with this girl (if you can call it that.) Particularly, in recent months, he commented how he saw her facebook page and she's always talking about partying every weekend and posting pictures of the parties to her page; he's constantly worrying about how she might hook up with another guy and forget about him (yeah, those were his exact words.) One thing I found particularly disturbing is that he saved up ALL of her facebook pictures from up to 3 years ago. (She frequently deletes and changes her facebook pics but he saved all 100+ or so of them from over the last 3 years, much like how we might collect porn or something.)

I explained to him in detail how he shouldn't be calling her all the time and even showed him the DJ Bible; at least he accepted THAT and cut down to calling her about once a month. Every time before he calls her, he'd call ME first and would ask me to help him come up with a plan for almost every possible response that she'll give (i.e. "What should I do if she picks up and says she's busy?", "What should I do if she says I now have a BF?", "What should I do if she says she's worried about finding a job?", etc.)

Right now, if he pesters me about what he really needs to do to get this girl, I tell him straight up to forget about her and try other women (after hinting this about 100 times in the past already.) Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to even remotely want to consider this option.

Seeing how much trouble he's having with women even at his age (already in his 30's), I kinda feel sorry for my friend.. but at the same time, I feel sorry for my classmate who is probably completely creeped out by this guy by now.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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kingsam

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there really are some guys you cant help- they will NEVER get it....its a shame, as it reduces the number of buddies you wanna hang out with when go out to bars or other places where HB's may be...

so how much notice has he taken of all the tips in the DJ bible (or does he just ask you everything?)... maybe point him to a few other sites (askmen.com is a good one for afc's to read)... unfortunaltey the more blunt and honest you are to him the more bitter he may be towards you...

cant you get him to meet/show some "natural DJ's" you know and point out to him the ways they act with women (and how he doesnt do it)...BUT really he can only make the changes HIMSELF and some guys just dont wanna listen ...
 

The Greek

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I really don't want to sound mean, but I've experience with this type of person. He needs professional help, and I don't mean pro PUA. He's not a danger to anyone, but it sounds like he's not matured emotionally. Psychotherapy can help with things like this and can be very comforting. It'd be easier I guess if you lived close together and you could use your own success to hook him up with chicas a bit. If it's just very stong oneitis, the easiest way to kill it is by having other girls show an interest in him. (Oneitis and obsessive behaviour are things I'm unfortunately acquainted with, LOL)
 

AtillaTheHun

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I can totally relate. My best friend is a total chump. He knows it, I know it, everyone knows it, but he just wont listen to anything we have to say. It hurts because I love the guy, and watching him wallow in self pity is a huge suck fest.

But I think he's slowly coming to his senses. He starting to think more positively. I'm sure he'll come around one day. But there's nothing I can do to "help" him. People help themselves.
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Alle_Gory

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Failure can help him out most. When you see him with a girl, and you know better explain to him step by step what will happen and how it will get all fvcked up.

If you're right, he might listen to you next time and then you can do something about it. Prove to him that you know your ****.
 
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