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Is there a time to stop going out / clubbing?

JdelaSilviera

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Hi,

We all know that by late 20´s, due to social pressure (specially women pressure), people start to go out less, start to lock their circle of friends and eventually get married. You will see for instance many cases of couples who are dating for 6 months or less, that will get engaged. For me this is all very stupid, and it doesn´t surprise me that people end up depressed. Routine is depressing, no new people, friends, dates etc..

So you will end up finding that clubs are filled with kids. I´m 25 but I have no problem being in clubs where the average is 19-20, the age difference is not that big, and the girls are sexier, easier and sluttier. For me, I hate older (or even my age) women so I need to keep some contact with younger chicks. But I notice some friends who are late 20´s (28-29) are more reluctant now to go out, and some kind of feel old in the clubs. Do you also feel that way? Is there an age to stop?

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28 here and still going clubbing, as long as you dont show more than 25 or if you do you're good looking thats fine.

It also helps to dress fine, jeans+squared shirt no please especially if you're 35yrs old english dude trying to get girls in east europe.

Can totally relate about liking younger girls more then the one our age, older girls are still slvts with a high c0ck count, what it change is the kind of bvllsh1t they provide and the expectations they have...as if they didnt realize they are losing look and femininity the longer they are in this earth.

Plus as a rule I dont "wait" till she is ready because she has to look "serious" now, when all her previous years she was an easy lay for other guys.
 

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Yep, 28 is still very young for a guy, that´s why I don´t understand friends who have that age and are "afraid" to look the old creepy guy where I see lots of people in their 30´s and 40´s going out.

I really do think there´s an age gap of 10 years between Men and Women, in terms of sexual appeal peak. If a guy takes care of himself he can look very young till very late in life. Guys can build a Greek god body even if they start working out at mid thirties (admitting they don´t start morbidly obese or something), while I don´t see one single girl with a killer ass over 25. I also can´t help to despise older women 40+ who hit on me... they were probably once arrogant ******s that now want to compensate all those good looking dudes they lost in their prime because of their princess syndrome.
 

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29 here and still clubbing. My male friends are in the same age range 27-32 and most of them still club except for the few with serious girlfriends.

There is no age cap on fun. A man should always do what he enjoys. Also.. the standard is changing with the new generation where enjoying nightlife at a later age is more acceptable (since people are getting married later in life and increasingly avoiding it all together).

Men are always the slowest to catch up when "social rules" change. This is why some morons still buy flowers on the first date and hold the door open :crackup: :crackup:. The few men I know who don't do things they ENJOY because of how other people perceive them are very hard to respect. They are vain, media controlled, beta's. I pity them.

A man should live as he pleases. Always.
 

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19 here so still relatively fresh to the clubbing scene.
Whenever I go there always a token "old" guy. This guy just looks like an idiot, always a real creeper. It's not as bad if he goes with a couple of buddies, but they look out of place, have no luck with the ladies, and often get pushed around by the younger ones.

I go to the more younger oriented clubs though, so there's a time and a place.
 

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Yea I still hit up clubs at 29.. I admit I'm not really that fond of doing so though - I'd prefer to stay in a bar or something
 

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if you looking for an easy "come up" then the club/bar is the right place but by 25, you should have enough money to do bigger and better things then focus you life on Pu$$y and drinking.
 

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Haha. I'm 37 but look a little younger and I still go to clubs occasionally. I prefer bars though. If you make it weird in your mind then its gonna be weird. I just go and have fun. You're only a creeper if your vibe is creepy.

I was at a club recently and a pretty cute 22 yr old approached me. Within 5 minutes she was all over me. Her younger guy friend kept trying to blow me out by asking my age. I own my age and I own myself. The girl could not have given 2 sh1ts. Attraction is attraction.
 

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I just turned 30 few months ago but I'm still hitting the night scene. I have a great body, get told I'm hot by plenty of women younger or older and i can still pass for 25. However since I'm in NYC, i can choose which type of crowd i rather go to in terms of quality of females and age preference or it depends what type of girl I'm trying to pick up. For example, if I'm in the mood to spend a lot of money to buy a bottle with friends, Id be down around the meat packing district with PLENTY of smokin hot woman all around. Overall though, i still love to go out. Lately I've been cutting back though only because I've been going out so much and picking up girl after girl gets kinda boring and its the same thing all the time... Drinks, Girls, Dancing..etc but after a while i get pumped up to go back out. If you still feel young and want to go out and party, go ahead and have some fun man.
 

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I think it's pretty normal for people up to the age of around ~40 to go clubbing.. having said that I've seen older and thought nothing of it. I just get the impression that as I age I probably wouldn't want to be around that scene anymore.. who knows though, I'll report back when I'm 60, ha.
 

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In my city and most that I've been to the clubs are mostly full of people in their early 20's. A guy much older than 5-7 years than an early 20 year old is stigmatized. I think ~22 yo girls are and would be attracted to many guys 30-40 but societal pressure acts as a c0ckblock.

All I ever see is lots of attractive ~21 year-olds talking to a bunch of early 20-year old guys in clubs.

I've never seen many older guys in the clubs and never seen them have much success. Most women in their early 20's will lose interest in you based on the number of your age. They're attracted but they can't accept the number and societal programming. Funny how older women don't have this problem when older women is just naturally/biologically wrong.

It's really a matter of looking 20-something if they don't know you are really 30-something. As always, it's about appearance and not being disqualified by too big of an age number difference. It's hard to still look "20-something" when you are pushing 40, leave alone all the other BS with clubs.
 

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^Some of you older guys dont give younger folks enough credit.

Most 20-something women go for 20-something men because thats what they find attractive. Dont blame "social programming". Blame biology. For the most part, people look their best in their 20s, and why wouldnt a club girl want the most attractive guy she can find?

Usually the most attractive people you can find are in their 20s. Can you blame club girls who just want to have fun, to go after younger guys who tend to be in better shape with fuller heads of hair? Lets be real guys.

Im 26, but I havent done the club thing regularly in a few years. I may go every once in a while if Im dragged there, but only if its a place thatll have an average age of at least 23. I dont go to places that let in a bunch of under-agers with fake IDs.

For the most part Im a bar guy. But I like bars that have a dim dance floor, so it combines the bar and club feel. Places like that tend to have people of all ages, unlike nightclubs. Im sure I could still do the nightclub thing without issue, considering I can pass for early 20s easily (black dont crack), but I dont wanna deal with kids.

PS - Club if you want to, but Im sure you guys know that late 20s is typically the cut off point in terms of looking weird. And most people will think youre an outright loser if youre in a young crowd nightclub past 30. Its best to find nightspots that cater to your age group. So yeah, go clubbing, but find a place older folks frequent....which in reality, is usually a lounge or bar.
 

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^Some of you younger guys don't give older folks enough credit. Did you know not that long ago women dating older guys was not only more acceptable it was the in thing. I can even remember that as a very young teenager. Leave alone thousands of years that 40 year old men married teenage girls before that. Someone that only knows how it is since the late 90's and early 2000's doesn't understand how much their beliefs and behaviors are programmed by society.

And Jaylan there's no way a male heterosexual writes what you do.
 

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What I do find odd is young guys saying whether or not girls are attracted to older guys. How would they know? They haven't lived through their 30s, 40s etc. All I hear from the older guys is that it only gets easier.. yet younger guys say it won't, ha.
 

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SteR said:
What I do find odd is young guys saying whether or not girls are attracted to older guys. How would they know? They haven't lived through their 30s, 40s etc. All I hear from the older guys is that it only gets easier.. yet younger guys say it won't, ha.
Younger guys just player hate on older guys and are too young and naïve to realize they get their beliefs from the modern social programming. But younger guys think it's fine for them to date "cougars".

When they get into their 30's-40's which will happen before they know it, they'll realize that they're still attracted to younger women and be changing their tune. They'll get tired of older women with their sagging, wrinkling, and loose and dry pvssy and baggage.

I don't think it gets easier, only harder for older guys especially over mid 30's to date young women. But I say it's mostly because of societal conditioning. Men age but not like women and can still look handsome and attractive to younger women. But the young women can tell the man is older and not twenties. That's where the societal programming comes in-your still attractive but the age difference makes it tough. There's no shortage of twenty year old men for any young women to get with, so it's easy for women to pass on a guy even if she is otherwise attracted.
 

What happens, IN HER MIND, is that she comes to see you as WORTHLESS simply because she hasn't had to INVEST anything in you in order to get you or to keep you.

You were an interesting diversion while she had nothing else to do. But now that someone a little more valuable has come along, someone who expects her to treat him very well, she'll have no problem at all dropping you or demoting you to lowly "friendship" status.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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^I dont want cougars really. You can have em lol. You guys delude yourself about what young folks want as badly as cougars delude themselves. Do you guys not realize that cougars say the same things about wrinkled, aging, beer gut, bald guys their age? Do you not realize that they sit and talk about how society programs men to think its not ok to date older? Its the same crap youre saying. People seem unable to accept that youth is attractive to both sexes, and our 20s tend to be our best looking years. And that 20 somethings tend to be shallow.
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^Some of you younger guys don't give older folks enough credit. Did you know not that long ago women dating older guys was not only more acceptable it was the in thing. I can even remember that as a very young teenager. Leave alone thousands of years that 40 year old men married teenage girls before that. Someone that only knows how it is since the late 90's and early 2000's doesn't understand how much their beliefs and behaviors are programmed by society.

And Jaylan there's no way a male heterosexual writes what you do.
Youre talking about the past, long before women solely dated men just for hot sex. When it comes to just getting hot sex, young club girls want hot guys. The same way we want hot women.

The fact of the matter is that most hot people are in their 20s. If you stay hot into older age, great. But guys my age dont worry about older dudes since Im in better shape than most older guys and plenty of my contemporaries.

Its now greatly accepted than ever before for women to choose a guy solely on sex appeal. Theres a reason why most girls talk about hotties who tend to be younger. Thats biology dude. Girls like tight bodies and nice hair just like we do.

Im not saying some women dont like older guys. Im saying its disingenuous to say that most young girls are dating young guys merely because of what society says. Thats what their bodies are pushing them to desire, so why not accept the reality that many are just more attracted to young guys in their age group? When I get to my 30s I wont pretend most women in their 20s arent dating me because of what society says. Ill know the reality is that they will have plenty of young hotties their age to go after.

Its a shame some of you cannot be realistic. You get so butt hurt by what I say that you have to throw pathetic insults at the end of your post. Im a straight male who recognizes reality. Not every girl will want me, and I wont always be near the top of the sexual pyramid. We all get older, and when we do, the young folks dont look our way much.
 

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Jaylan, I agree with you partially. But don´t forget that a guy who is early 30´s for instance, had more time to put muscle at the gym. So a guy in shape in his 30´s is bigger, more ripped etc. And you see many guys like this, it´s totally normal for a 30 yo be in good shape. For women it´s another history.

Since most people meet potential partner through friends, the only problem with a 30 yo, is getting to know the hot younger chicks who are outside his circle. In that sense guys in early twenties have an advantadge. Don´t forget also, that in the same way we like younger chicks and feel the need to protect them (biological instinct due to their younger/sweet face), women are attracted to guys that are a bit older, almost a paternal thing that inspires them security.

But if you are older and out of shape, I don´t have any problem to admit that the girl will prefer the younger hotter guy..
 

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^I agree with you about training. I train myself and know for a fact that most guys who build their bodies peak in their early 30s because of years of hard work coming together while they still have good testosterone levels pumping in their body. The same could be said for women who train.

Its why in fitness and figure competitions for women, and natural bodybuilding competitions for men, you can see folks in their early 30s own a 20-somethings physique with ease at times.

But how many people spend years building their body? Not many do. And then even if they build their body, the face wont be as youthful in its 30s as it is in its 20s. So Jdela you make great points, but the average person isnt someone whos building their bodies for years and peaking at 30. The average fitness enthusiast doesnt even do that.

I also get what youre saying about protection and security. But that mostly applies to relationships and settling down. We are talking about the club here. And club girls hook up with the hottest guy they can land. Ive seen a 19 yr old guy built like a model snag my 22 year old friend at the club back in college.

This is just how Ive seen clubby chicks behave.
 

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The 80's and 90's was long before women dated men solely for hot sex lol? I think you would have to go back to at least pre 1960 but really pre-1940's or even 1920's (first-wave feminism) when it was all about security. You're so full of it and clueless. Women are attracted to many guys of various ages. But what women do with their attraction is very dependent on societal programming. Women use to rarely date outside of their race. Was that not societal influenced? Gays use to be in the closet, etc, etc.

You will be changing your tune in a few years, that is if you were actually a heterosexual male in the first place which I can't see that being the case.
 

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^Keep believing what you want bro. Im not the one making excuses for why hot young women arent dating me. Deal with it and make any reason for it not happening as you like.

I have no need to change tunes bro. Im in damn good shape with a full head of hair, and I will remain in good shape as I get older. So even if I lose my hair, Ill be in great shape, and I already know I rock the baldy well.

Ill be able to snag good looking girls my age or younger if I want to. But I prefer women around my age as I relate to them better. So if I am single in my 30s, Ill have no problem snagging the rarer hot over 30 babes. Lord knows they can be picky themselves though.
 
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