Reyaj
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Part of me thinks this is the path and the other part of me feels like I shouldn't subject a child to this crappy world we live in.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Is the Purpose of Life to Procreate?
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"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."
Attraction runs on a clock.
She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.
The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."
One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.
Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.
Bible_Belt
Master Don Juan
There are way too many humans on this planet as it is.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
Ok but if you don't procreate you're dead with no one carrying on your DNA.
True. Even the midwest where you're from has become highly populated. I still think girls are easier there though
stovepipe
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We are raised to believe procreating is our purpose. I would not want to raise a child in todays phuked up world. It's too toxic and getting worse by the day. "Most" all the married couples I know are miserable, in debt, rarely have sex, complain, ect. The many single moms I know. Sloots are getting wifed up, good guys get dogged, women are loyal to trash men, the good girls are single and the ungrateful have everything.
As you get older your view on purpose changes. IMO live out your dreams, travel, be a good person, stay healthy, have sex, try not to stress that much and just live the life you want to live with zero phukes.
As you get older your view on purpose changes. IMO live out your dreams, travel, be a good person, stay healthy, have sex, try not to stress that much and just live the life you want to live with zero phukes.
Who cares? Not everyone is meant to have a child nor does everyone want one. I'm totally fine with not leaving my DNA behind. This world is going to chit in a hand basket and there is already too many people. Some of the happiest marriages I've seen have no kids. They use the money they would have spent on the child to travel the world, eat good food and enjoy life creating amazing memories.
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"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"
You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.
Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.
Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.
Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.
It's the natural purpose of life. You are here today, because for billions of years lifeforms before you made it their priority to procreate. That is still the baseline programming for every animal on earth, including the 7bn humans.
It's not a fitting purpose anymore though. Back in the days, couple of millenia ago, you could just bite dead other people's offspring to ensure your own offspring had enough resources to flourish. But now we live in an "everybody has a right to live" world and population is out of control.
These days I'm wondering whether it'd be more interesting to pass down my "philosophical DNA", rather than my physical. But then again, the animal in me wants to spread physical DNA.
It's not a fitting purpose anymore though. Back in the days, couple of millenia ago, you could just bite dead other people's offspring to ensure your own offspring had enough resources to flourish. But now we live in an "everybody has a right to live" world and population is out of control.
These days I'm wondering whether it'd be more interesting to pass down my "philosophical DNA", rather than my physical. But then again, the animal in me wants to spread physical DNA.
AttackFormation
Master Don Juan
Another point is that your dna will disappear anyway. Your dna already exists in the rest of humanity, it's just your specific arrangement that you have. So both your consciousness and your individual dna arrangement will end with you, while your dna as a whole will still exist in the rest of humanity, children or no children.
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There’s nothing special about my DNA. I don’t care if it gets passed on or not.
taiyuu_otoko
Master Don Juan
Your purpose is whatever you want it to be. You have a drive to bust a nut into a chick and you are descended from dudes who successfully busted nuts in at least one lady. If you want to have kids have kids. If you don't want to have kids don't have kids. Nobody really cares one way or the other.
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
I can't disagree with anything you wrote here because this is how I often feel. However whether you want to admit it or not you are aging. There comes a point where scoring young attractive women will be difficult. Heck even for someone who is young it's difficult let alone an older man.
I don't disagree. So is the alternative to not having kids to have a life a partner? I guess the question is how many older "single" people do you know who are happy?
Right
Or maybe your kid does have offspring and his offspring doesn't procreate.... At least you did your part though
So it is our biological purpose then?
I'm not a scientist to try and debate facts about what you said lol But most kids sure do resemble their parents
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I've always been a recluse due to my mental disorders. I have no issues being alone forever, but will not for a sec deny a life partner would be ideal for me. Someone who shares some of the same interests and at the end of the day call my best friend. Finding that these days is tough but they are out there.
People these days are very good at hiding their true identity. The ones who portray to be happy are usually the ones who aren't. The ones who dont look happy usually are. The few single girls I know in my group of friends are not happy. They sometimes open up telling me how they thought or expected to be married or have a bf by now (they are 38-41). Then when they do get a bf it doesn't last. Some even told me they are miserable. Then some my married friends wives complain to me about their husbands and vice versa.
Some of my friends of friends wives I barely know I catch them starring at me constantly with their husband by her side. I will look up and see one of them giving me that deep stare, then when she sees me catch her she immediately looks down at the ground to try and play it off. When looking down in most cases is a sign of submission. Those same women I first thought were good wives only to realize that deep down she is bored, unhappy and wants the touch of another man.
We as humans are wired to interact, love, ,mingle, ect with others. Being single as you get older will for most make them sad. Few of my relatives in their 60's are single are down right miserable. They turn that misery into hatred towards others. Like they are blaming/hating the world for their own outcome. Heck even my dad is miserable married to mom. All he does when Im with him is complain about her non stop.
Then you have to worry if your partner will get bored with you years down the road, cheat or drive you crazy. The world is shifting in the fact that we as humans can't really trust each other as much as before. People are becoming greedy, untrustworthy, selfish, entitled, bored very easily and rarely ever satisfied. Then you have social media creating all these new mental conditions.
Before I write a book. What I am trying to say is the odds of someone finding a life partner in today's world is the equivalent of winning the Mega Millions jackpot.
If you read enough absurdist fiction you will come to understand that objectively, we cannot ascribe a purpose to life. That is of course irrelevant, because what matters is the subjective purpose that gets you out of bed in the morning.
So, if you believe procreating makes your life worthwhile, go have some kids. If you believe that the experience, the journey, is the purpose in itself, then go travel, tick off items on your bucket list, learn new things. No one can tell you what the purpose of life is, only what purpose they have given it themselves.
So, if you believe procreating makes your life worthwhile, go have some kids. If you believe that the experience, the journey, is the purpose in itself, then go travel, tick off items on your bucket list, learn new things. No one can tell you what the purpose of life is, only what purpose they have given it themselves.
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That would depend on your personal beliefs and philosophy. Are you just a body or is one a mind, body and spirit?
Those would have two different end games.
Those would have two different end games.
Reyaj
Master Don Juan
We are all going to die!
"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"
She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.
Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.
The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.