SexPDX
Master Don Juan
I am seeing my perspective on the club situation change. I still go to clubs, but with a different mentality.
IMO a REAL pick up is where you use YOUR material to influence how your target feels about you. On the dance floor, it's all about how appealing you are to her based on looks. How you dance does not matter unless you are either really good or really bad and most guys (including me) are neither. You don't TALK to her on the dance floor (at least not much) and therefore your control over the situation is extremely limitted.
When I look back on most of my club success it had very little to do with my skills. The girl basically was into me to begin with. Okay, so had I not been confident and actually DONE the approach it obviously would not have worked but still there was no pick up "skill" involved.
If you are newbie reading this who hesitates to approach women on the dance floor then you probably SHOULD spend some time on the dance floor just to overcome that. But you guys who have been doing this a while should possibly think about staying off the floor and doing some group approaches and disarming obstacles between you and your target. I am not saying don't dance, just try doing your initial approaches off of the floor if the floor has not been working out so well.
Agree, disagree?
Speaking of this, I plan to write a long tips post tonight about wingman theory giving some events last night as an example. Hopefully this will have generated some replies by then.
Nick
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- The seductionist formerly known as trickynick
You either own the game or it owns you.
~"Pon atencion al latido de tu corazon...y el ritmo de tu respiracion...como te permites llegar a ser completamente llevada...por la conexion que esta tomando lugar." ~
IMO a REAL pick up is where you use YOUR material to influence how your target feels about you. On the dance floor, it's all about how appealing you are to her based on looks. How you dance does not matter unless you are either really good or really bad and most guys (including me) are neither. You don't TALK to her on the dance floor (at least not much) and therefore your control over the situation is extremely limitted.
When I look back on most of my club success it had very little to do with my skills. The girl basically was into me to begin with. Okay, so had I not been confident and actually DONE the approach it obviously would not have worked but still there was no pick up "skill" involved.
If you are newbie reading this who hesitates to approach women on the dance floor then you probably SHOULD spend some time on the dance floor just to overcome that. But you guys who have been doing this a while should possibly think about staying off the floor and doing some group approaches and disarming obstacles between you and your target. I am not saying don't dance, just try doing your initial approaches off of the floor if the floor has not been working out so well.
Agree, disagree?
Speaking of this, I plan to write a long tips post tonight about wingman theory giving some events last night as an example. Hopefully this will have generated some replies by then.
Nick
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- The seductionist formerly known as trickynick
You either own the game or it owns you.
~"Pon atencion al latido de tu corazon...y el ritmo de tu respiracion...como te permites llegar a ser completamente llevada...por la conexion que esta tomando lugar." ~