"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is oral reciprocation expected?

2crudedudes

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I was hanging out with my FB (ex), whom I've had sex with many times (oral, anal, vaginal, you name it, we did it). Its been a while since we broke up, and its been a really long while since she gave me a BJ. I asked her for some lovin before heading inside, to which she replied "don't ask, its tacky." Fine, point taken. But before I could go in, she told me she was dry and that I should go down on her....

I said I wouldn't do it, and she blabbed on about how I was going "eye for an eye." She said she didn't wanna blow me because she didn't feel the same way about me, and brought up how I'd given some other chick (who was never my gf) oral. She tried to pass it off as if it was equally pleasurable for me, which it isn't. I love eating her out, but on a psychological level. Nothing beats a good ol hummer, though.

In the end, she booked before we could hook up. What do you guys think? I mean, I can understand that some foreplay was gonna be necessary, but demanding oral or else she bails (especially when she won't even entertain my request)? WTF?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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john paul

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Thats bullsh!t on her part and its good you didnt fold.

By her turning your request down and then asking for oral she was trying to take control of the FB relationship.

Next time get the sex and leave it at that. Start trying to make her feel used.
 

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Oral should be done because you want to, not because some chick gives you an ultimatum.
 

Julius_Seizeher

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Or just stick your tongue up her ass, and see if she asks you for oral again.
 

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Julius_Seizeher said:
Or just stick your tongue up her ass, and see if she asks you for oral again.
eew. not worth it.
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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2crudedudes

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john paul said:
Thats bullsh!t on her part and its good you didnt fold.

By her turning your request down and then asking for oral she was trying to take control of the FB relationship.

Next time get the sex and leave it at that. Start trying to make her feel used.
Thanks for reassuring me. I felt kinda dumb that I gave up getting laid for not eating her out, considering I like both. But I think the power struggle here was the most important part of the night. I guess I'm glad things turned out the way they did :S

Special T said:
Oral should be done because you want to, not because some chick gives you an ultimatum.
I usually don't mind eating her out. I do enjoy it. But the fact that she just got up and left because I wouldn't do it shows her true colors. I was honestly surprised (and outraged) that she reacted that way.

Julius_Seizeher said:
Or just stick your tongue up her ass, and see if she asks you for oral again.
Actually, she kinda digs that (and I like playing with her ass too, so...) :p

sodbuster said:
go in for a s1xty n1ner position-if she won't you don't
Great idea!
 

PRMoon

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It's your FB so I wouldn't over think it too much. If she's having NSA sex with you, you're bound to but heads about small stuff like this from time to time. FB situations are that where either party can say no to anything from time to time. That's what being a FB is all about, it has to be convenient and wanted by both parties. You don't have to do anything you don't want to and neither does she. Since you aren't a couple there isn't really a need to sit or talk about it because it's just sex.

Just bide your time and you'll get head from here eventually. You could buy some vodka to speed up the process if you want it that bad.
 
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