raven_82
Don Juan
I was wondering what the general consensus is.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
Is male plastic surgery acceptable?
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"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
raven_82
Don Juan
bump
Absolutely. If some guy has man-boobies I think it's a great idea to get a breast reduction.Originally posted by raven_82
I was wondering what the general consensus is.
diablo
Master Don Juan
I'm curious about the options you had in your poll. Specifically this, "Yes, but only if what he wants to change is less than average". You do realize that there is no shortage of things that plastic surgery can accomplish, right? That it's not just to increase the size of your penis - which is what I'm assuming from that question is the basis for your posting this poll in the first place... further deduction would make one wonder as to the size of your own member, as I wouldn't think that many men with normal to large penises would feel an urge to create a question set such as this... that being said, I see nothing wrong with plastic surgery, it's just a change to the most ideal (in your mind) shape or form - or length. I've even thought of lipoplasty before, which is also known as liposuction. It'd be nice to permanently get rid of the small love handles I have - but at about $2000 per site, I think a cheaper and better alternative would be proper diet and exercise...
"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"
Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.
You've been "getting ready" for two years.
She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.
Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.
raven_82
Don Juan
That's not what I was talking about.
diablo,
I didn't have a penis enlargement surgery in mind when I created the poll. I wasn't even thinking along the lines of liposuction or gastric by-pass. I was think more along the lines of rhinoplasty, cleft lip surgery, ear pinning, mole removal, scar revision and even chin and lip injections. For example, If some guy has a very large nose, is it ok for him to have a rhinoplasty. He can't just go on a diet. Or a guy's "dumbo" ears aren't really helping him pickup attractive women, though he could overcome it. His ear's are one strike in the unattractive column.
I think that it is ok, from the Don Juan mindset, to get facial and body plastic surgery if it helps you look better. Though, I do think there are people that probably have had too much plastic surgery and it has made them unattractive. Case in point: Michael Jackson and Lil' Kim. But if being a Don Juan is about always improving yourself and your life, then I think plastic surgery is acceptable.
P.S. I have been told I have an attractive penis.
diablo,
I didn't have a penis enlargement surgery in mind when I created the poll. I wasn't even thinking along the lines of liposuction or gastric by-pass. I was think more along the lines of rhinoplasty, cleft lip surgery, ear pinning, mole removal, scar revision and even chin and lip injections. For example, If some guy has a very large nose, is it ok for him to have a rhinoplasty. He can't just go on a diet. Or a guy's "dumbo" ears aren't really helping him pickup attractive women, though he could overcome it. His ear's are one strike in the unattractive column.
I think that it is ok, from the Don Juan mindset, to get facial and body plastic surgery if it helps you look better. Though, I do think there are people that probably have had too much plastic surgery and it has made them unattractive. Case in point: Michael Jackson and Lil' Kim. But if being a Don Juan is about always improving yourself and your life, then I think plastic surgery is acceptable.
P.S. I have been told I have an attractive penis.
diablo
Master Don Juan
Good to hear some confidence. Sometimes plastic surgery can be brought to an extreme, like your reference to Michael Jackson... regardless of how high it allows him to sing, what was he thinking???
MindOverMatter
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If you have an insecurity and you can afford to fix via plastic surgery, then by all means feel free to. Just don't get carried away with that sh!t.
raven_82
Don Juan
bump, just one more time, to make the results a little more scientific.
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Master Don Juan
im surprised how many of yall answered a straight up yes. care to explain?
"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"
You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.
She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.
Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.
Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.