raven_82
Don Juan
I was wondering what the general consensus is.
"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"
Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.
She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.
Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.
So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.
The words come later. The impression comes first.
Is male plastic surgery acceptable?
- Thread starter raven_82
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"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
raven_82
Don Juan
bump
Absolutely. If some guy has man-boobies I think it's a great idea to get a breast reduction.Originally posted by raven_82
I was wondering what the general consensus is.
diablo
Master Don Juan
I'm curious about the options you had in your poll. Specifically this, "Yes, but only if what he wants to change is less than average". You do realize that there is no shortage of things that plastic surgery can accomplish, right? That it's not just to increase the size of your penis - which is what I'm assuming from that question is the basis for your posting this poll in the first place... further deduction would make one wonder as to the size of your own member, as I wouldn't think that many men with normal to large penises would feel an urge to create a question set such as this... that being said, I see nothing wrong with plastic surgery, it's just a change to the most ideal (in your mind) shape or form - or length. I've even thought of lipoplasty before, which is also known as liposuction. It'd be nice to permanently get rid of the small love handles I have - but at about $2000 per site, I think a cheaper and better alternative would be proper diet and exercise...
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
raven_82
Don Juan
That's not what I was talking about.
diablo,
I didn't have a penis enlargement surgery in mind when I created the poll. I wasn't even thinking along the lines of liposuction or gastric by-pass. I was think more along the lines of rhinoplasty, cleft lip surgery, ear pinning, mole removal, scar revision and even chin and lip injections. For example, If some guy has a very large nose, is it ok for him to have a rhinoplasty. He can't just go on a diet. Or a guy's "dumbo" ears aren't really helping him pickup attractive women, though he could overcome it. His ear's are one strike in the unattractive column.
I think that it is ok, from the Don Juan mindset, to get facial and body plastic surgery if it helps you look better. Though, I do think there are people that probably have had too much plastic surgery and it has made them unattractive. Case in point: Michael Jackson and Lil' Kim. But if being a Don Juan is about always improving yourself and your life, then I think plastic surgery is acceptable.
P.S. I have been told I have an attractive penis.
diablo,
I didn't have a penis enlargement surgery in mind when I created the poll. I wasn't even thinking along the lines of liposuction or gastric by-pass. I was think more along the lines of rhinoplasty, cleft lip surgery, ear pinning, mole removal, scar revision and even chin and lip injections. For example, If some guy has a very large nose, is it ok for him to have a rhinoplasty. He can't just go on a diet. Or a guy's "dumbo" ears aren't really helping him pickup attractive women, though he could overcome it. His ear's are one strike in the unattractive column.
I think that it is ok, from the Don Juan mindset, to get facial and body plastic surgery if it helps you look better. Though, I do think there are people that probably have had too much plastic surgery and it has made them unattractive. Case in point: Michael Jackson and Lil' Kim. But if being a Don Juan is about always improving yourself and your life, then I think plastic surgery is acceptable.
P.S. I have been told I have an attractive penis.
diablo
Master Don Juan
Good to hear some confidence. Sometimes plastic surgery can be brought to an extreme, like your reference to Michael Jackson... regardless of how high it allows him to sing, what was he thinking???
MindOverMatter
Master Don Juan
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If you have an insecurity and you can afford to fix via plastic surgery, then by all means feel free to. Just don't get carried away with that sh!t.
raven_82
Don Juan
bump, just one more time, to make the results a little more scientific.
Lost
Master Don Juan
im surprised how many of yall answered a straight up yes. care to explain?
"I just moved here from Florida."
That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?
She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."
She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.
I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.
Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.