Is lack of game just a low IQ problem?

[Snag87]

I must be developmentally challenged then. Thanks for that insight.

Well, not that low.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

After reading this thread, I took one of those online IQ tests. Got a 132. I don't know what that says about my relationships w/ women, but I have zero tolerance for a girl and her bvll****.

Online IQ tests are meaningless. I would say IQ tests in general as a measure of G (general intelligence) are still pretty bad. Not to say IQ isn't valid, but the tests are.

 

[Epicenter]

I can imagine that high IQ means you work with your frontal lobe more than your reptilian brain. Feelings are connected to the reptilian brain. A high IQ man might not be interested to let the reptilian brain dominate. Reptilian brain means also high risk behaviour that is what many girls on a sexual level want I guess.

Maybe that is why some high IQ men become alcoholics to dumb themselves down to be more relatable.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

Online IQ tests are meaningless. I would say IQ tests in general as a measure of G (general intelligence) are still pretty bad. Not to say IQ isn't valid, but the tests are.

Y'all are missing the point of my post. I couldn't care less what score I got. I was making a point about my rels with women, since y'all keep talking bout how certain IQ dudes fare with women.

 

[Bigpapa]

High IQ correlates well with book smarts. Game is a street smart sport. Same as basketball. You'll notice there are many flat out dumb ass dudes in the league that make dumb ass financial decisions. But the announcers will say he's got a "high basketball IQ".

yeah , people with high intelligence usually are more interested exploring theoretical and empirical things , rather than going through bullsh1t with women or people in general

this type Of things that they are interested in also kinda puts them in the more introverted spectrum of things

I think that it does more to do with intelligence , and more things to do with what usually people do

scam Artists are a good example of high intelligence guys that are good with women , but mainly due to their interest being in scamming people

 

[Barrister]

Not sure I agree that high IQ guys are worse off than lower IQ guys when it comes to gaming women. I will definitely say that IQ generally has no bearing on a man's ability to game women (unless it so low he has cognitive issues). So all things equal between two men except one is average IQ and another is above average; I would not say that the above average IQ man has some advantage there.

 

[Kotaix]

IQ tests are defined around problem solving capabilities in as little time as possible. It has nothing to do with emotional intelligence or ability to influence or relate to other people.

I know one guy who is dumb as a rock, but he's an absolute master at manipulating women and scamming them. I'm pretty certain he's a psychopath.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

IQ tests are defined around problem solving capabilities in as little time as possible. It has nothing to do with emotional intelligence or ability to influence or relate to other people.

I know one guy who is dumb as a rock, but he's an absolute master at manipulating women and scamming them. I'm pretty certain he's a psychopath.

yeah thats why judging off IQ alone is stupid. I know plenty of book smart people that cannot make a single coherent thought independently.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

IQ tests are defined around problem solving capabilities in as little time as possible. It has nothing to do with emotional intelligence or ability to influence or relate to other people.

I know one guy who is dumb as a rock, but he's an absolute master at manipulating women and scamming them. I'm pretty certain he's a psychopath.

As far as I know, there is almost no correlation between IQ and things like "emotional intelligence", social skills, conscientiousness, etc. People here seem to be making a lot of assumptions.

I would think being sharp and quick would be extremely beneficial for dealing with women.

 

[biggoal]

High and low intelligence men often struggle with women. Average intelligence is best.

But average intelligence isn't what makes the World function. If you want to be successful and earn big money it's intelligence.

 

[Bigpapa]

But average intelligence isn't what makes the World function. If you want to be successful and earn big money it's intelligence.

not even that

most of the senior managers or business owners are not really that smart

Sure , there are some that are , but the vast majority are not

More or less average in intelligence

 

[biggoal]

not even that

most of the senior managers or business owners are not really that smart

Sure , there are some that are , but the vast majority are not

More or less average in intelligence

Jeff Bezos, Thomas Edison, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Tim Cook, Donald Trump, Warren Buffet I would say are all above average.

Trump for example might not be an expert at math, but he's a very sharp thinker, great memory too.

Steve Balmer is another. Led Microsoft as CEO for 14 years.

Can't argue about business owners. Yes, there are a lot of dumb ones. Why do you think so many businesses don't last more than a couple years before going belly up.

But some idiot just can't lead a company like Microsoft or Amazon or a tech company.

Many cases senior managers and executives in these companies are not dumb people. They're greedy. Eddie Lampert is a great example. He's intelligent but ran Sears into the ground, basically for personal gains.

 

[Bigpapa]

Jeff Bezos, Thomas Edison, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Tim Cook, Donald Trump, Warren Buffet I would say are all above average.

Trump for example might not be an expert at math, but he's a very sharp thinker, great memory too.

Steve Balmer is another. Led Microsoft as CEO for 14 years.

Can't argue about business owners. Yes, there are a lot of dumb ones. Why do you think so many businesses don't last more than a couple years before going belly up.

But some idiot just can't lead a company like Microsoft or Amazon or a tech company.

Many cases senior managers and executives in these companies are not dumb people. They're greedy. Eddie Lampert is a great example. He's intelligent but ran Sears into the ground, basically for personal gains.

steve ballmer was an idiot . He was lucky

His tenure and legacy as Microsoft CEO has received mixed reception, with the company tripling sales and doubling profits, but losing its market dominance and missing out on 21st-century technology trends

bill gates stole windows from Steve Jobs

warren buffet came from a powerful family and basically he was trusted by his rich father friends and family to invest their money . As a wealth manager he is very far away in performance when compared to other ones

Thomas Edison stole the electricity transportation idea from Nikola Tesla . Tesla wanted to transport electricity for free , while Edison wanted to make money

if you want , I can continue

in our time , the only business man that is indeed smart is musk

but most truly smart and big inventors when died were not rich and all mostly loved a normal life . And even Elon musk , despite being a billionaire he is living a normal life

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[biggoal]

steve ballmer was an idiot . He was lucky

His tenure and legacy as Microsoft CEO has received mixed reception, with the company tripling sales and doubling profits, but losing its market dominance and missing out on 21st-century technology trends

bill gates stole windows from Steve Jobs

warren buffet came from a powerful family and basically he was trusted by his rich father friends and family to invest their money . As a wealth manager he is very far away in performance when compared to other ones

Thomas Edison stole the electricity transportation idea from Nikola Tesla . Tesla wanted to transport electricity for free , while Edison wanted to make money

if you want , I can continue

in our time , the only business man that is indeed smart is musk

but most truly smart and big inventors when died were not rich and all mostly loved a normal life . And even Elon musk , despite being a billionaire he is living a normal life

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Some rich people don't want flashy items and blow their cash.

Magic Johnson, and Shaq are other examples of intelligent business people. Not geeky math experts but smart.

Actually probably Bezos is the smartest. Figured out how to use the internet to basically dominate society as a whole. He's basically taken over retail.

With all the wealth Amazon has built up they basically have no competition. It's just not possible. It would cost way too much money to compete with Amazon. If it were so easy you'd see someone trying to compete with Amazon and you dont.

 

[Bigpapa]

Some rich people don't want flashy items and blow their cash.

Magic Johnson, and Shaq are other examples of intelligent business people. Not geeky math experts but smart.

Actually probably Bezos is the smartest. Figured out how to use the internet to basically dominate society as a whole. He's basically taken over retail.

With all the wealth Amazon has built up they basically have no competition. It's just not possible. It would cost way too much money to compete with Amazon. If it were so easy you'd see someone trying to compete with Amazon and you dont.

with the raise of the app deliveries , big
Companies will be able to skip the middle man ( Amazon for example ) in the moment Amazon will try to f8ck them

Amazon is big indeed , but it’s influence is not as strong as we like to believe

plus , most of the competitive advantage comes from treating its employees as slaves , and very strong against unions

so if you think about it , he was just the right guy at the right time , as he did not really do anything that spectacular

 

[devilkingx2]

It depends on how you define high IQ. If you define high IQ as school nerds that are good at math tests and calculating the strength of Spider-Man, then of course they do badly with women.

But a master manipulator or a criminal mastermind are most likely high IQ as well, just either in a different way or applied to a more practical subject. Imagine trying to trick or lie to a woman who's as smart as you or smarter.

A comedian who comes up with his own jokes or does improv is also most likely high IQ. A slow dumb person isn't going to be quick thinking and clever or have good jokes.
(C0cky + Funny, Amused Mastery and Agree + Amplify are game fundamentals that a comedian would excel at.)

An astronaut or a millitary fighter pilot has to be a bodybuilder AND a scientist AND a team player. They're most likely high IQ alpha male chads (those jobs are as hard on the body as they are on the mind)

 

[Black Widow Void]

I believe that several of the forum members are confusing those that are smart with those that are intelligent. These can be two entirely different things.

Memorizing formulas, patterns, or homework etc., can make someone appear smart, but that does not necessarily mean that they are intelligent.

Intelligent people are typicality capable more so of formulating their own ideas and thoughts - without always requiring the aid of outside variables.

As far as intelligence and picking up women? The more alcohol I drink and or the more pot that I smoke, the less I intellectual I appear; consequently more than doubling opportunities to take women home.

I’ll sleep with these types of women, but they’re sure not the type that would prompt me to think forming a relationship.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

IQ is a very narrow measurement of intelligence. Amongst many other things, it doesn't measure for EQ, creativity, machiavellianism and psychopathy (psychos are more objective in their decision making because they are unaffected by emotion or morality).

These are all intelligence traits that predict success with women (Dark Triad) - machiavelli (manipulation abilities), narcissism (self love), and psychopathy (no empathy/no emotions = no simping).

Guys who can build computers can't apply computer-building knowledge to picking-up women. Women aren't machines. So the IQ-smart STEM dudes are in a different intelligence stream. It's like a bee that's adept at hunting the best flower, versus the shark that's adept at hunting the best seal. Different skillsets.

That's simply not true. IQ is a great measure of general intelligence (G). No one with a high IQ can good at everything now, that's why polymaths don't exist anymore. Richard Feynman, for instance, was terrible at writing and English. How it works is that the most intelligent people often specialize in one area, but the sheer brainpower required to excel in in any one area still demands high G.

The issue comes down to the fact that the testing is often myopic, not the actual concept of G.

Jordan Peterson (who is a clinical psychologist, remember) talked about this back in his University lecture days.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

I believe that several of the forum members are confusing those that are smart with those that are intelligent. These can be two entirely different things.

Memorizing formulas, patterns, or homework etc., can make someone appear smart, but that does not necessarily mean that they are intelligent.

Intelligent people are typicality capable more so of formulating their own ideas and thoughts - without always requiring the aid of outside variables.

As far as intelligence and picking up women? The more alcohol I drink and or the more pot that I smoke, the less I intellectual I appear; consequently more than doubling opportunities to take women home.

I’ll sleep with these types of women, but they’re sure not the type that would prompt me to think forming a relationship.

Agreed.

My best pickups were always on smart drugs or mild stimulants, never depressants, especially alcohol. Being quick, witty, decisive, creative is the key to solid game.

 

[Chuck Taylor]

What IQ Tests aspire to be versus what they are in reality are very similar to places like universities and colleges that rewards pre-defined, narrow forms of intelligence - typically rote learning. Robotic learning. No divergent thinking. No new thought forms allowed.

The issue we have is that we have a society that purposefully rewards and advances non-threatening forms of intelligence, that don't threaten the hierarchy. Guys like Tesla found this out the hard way. If you want to be rewarded and advance in this matrix you have to be intelligent in a way that doesn't upset the power balance apple cart. Otherwise the threatened Alphas that run this matrix will kill you.

Peterson is a perfect example. If he was a real intelligent threat to the system he'd be killed. Peterson is allowed to stay because he operates within the matrix rules, same as the IQ test.

Telsa died at age 86. Why would his death have been foul play?