"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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Is it wrong if at the end of a date you ask if you can kiss her?

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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The Juan and only

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"Asking" is not generally recommended with most things (including kissing) because it makes you sound insecure. However these rules are more like guidelines and can be flexible, meaning you need to just feel the situation a bit.

so yes, asking for a kiss is ok in some situations but you have to ask in the right way and with the right tone of voice..no pathetic mumbling.

Actually, asking for a kiss can often set you up for a great opportunity...(and I would recommend you only try this on very attractive women or women who constantly tease you)...when they say 'Yes'..you move in slightly as though you are moving in to kiss her...then suddenly pull away and say "That's good to know" - which adds to the anticipation (she thought she was gonna get a kiss) and also gives you all the power. If executed correctly the girl will then be DETERMINED to get a kiss from you and may even jump on you right there and then;)
 

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If you do ask her,

"can i kiss you"

She says yes
so you say

"ok ill bear that in mind"
then make her wait a bit.

I read this somewhere.
 

ScrewIt

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Well, if you were to ask a girl if you can kiss her, i'd say the success rate is probably 5-10%. Are you willing to take that kind of rejection?

As others have said its best to just go in for a kiss close or ask "would you like to kiss me?"

Even if the girl is shy about it, she'll at least know you had the balls to do it.
 

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I was friends with this one cute girl who was telling me about a guy she liked who she was dating, and she told me about when he first tried to kiss her. "He actually asked if he could kiss me.....eww. We didn't kiss until later". I don't think I could ever ask a girl after hearing her say that. I think most girls feel that way.
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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Knowing when you can kiss a chick is something you can only figure out with experience. Usually after you fail to do it, it hits you that you missed your chance, and hopefully you won't miss it the next time you get the "kiss me now" look from a girl. I blew this one a few times until i recognized the look.

Generally, the "kiss me now" look is characterized by a long pause in conversation along with some heavy eye contact (with dilated pupils, or as RJ puts it the "Doggy dinner bowl" look). You just gotta go for it, because most times if you don't, the girl is gonna think that you're either a chump (or gay) or that you don't find her attractive, both of which are really bad, and can kill whatever you have with the girl.

Be like nike and just DO IT.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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The Nice Guy is Gone

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Originally posted by gunit630
I think i saw this in the DJ Bible but i cant find it
Don't need to read any replies--simply put, don't ask, just do. If you ask, it seems awkward (learned that lesson the hard way). One thing I did do, that worked a couple of times: You say, as you are leaning in for the kiss, "I want to kiss you." But don't wait for a response, just keep going in for the kisss, and the times I've done that, it has been successful. This was before I even knew about this site, which is why there aren't details.
 
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