"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is it smart to do this...if someone likes her??

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Ok here is the situation my friends:

I like this girl. And she is single right now. We are good friends (key word, although i am sometimes an ass just to be funny and she punches me for it, which is when i accuse her of just wanting to touch me).

ANYWAYS, this otther guy likes her too. He is very outgoing and very sexual. Talks about sex and penises and vaginas a lot lol. So he likes her, and she knows but is uncomfortably with him and they used to be friends, but now that she knows he is trying to get her, she doesn't like him anymore and doesn't feel comefortable around him.

So I was wondering:

1) I've been saying "haha you know you want him" and stuff like that. Is that smart? She just says " kerensky!!" And calls me mean. So should I be doing this? Does it hurt me and how?

2) Any other advice you have on how to get this girl would be appreciated. I am being unavailable a lot...because I really am, but I do make time to talk and always make her laugh.

P.S. feel free to ask me for more info. Me and this girl went to this winter ball before.
 

"She Liked You in March. It's October Now."

Attraction runs on a clock.

She flirted for weeks. Touched your arm. Found reasons to be alone with you. And you were careful. Respectful. Waiting for the right moment.

The moment had a shelf life. It expired around month two, and by the time you asked her out, she'd quietly filed you under "little brother."

One of the hardest lessons inside the 22 Rules: women rarely wait. Interest either grows or it decays, and nothing decays it faster than a man who never moves.

Make the move while she's still inventing reasons to be near you.

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I've been saying "haha you know you want him" and stuff like that. Is that smart? She just says " kerensky!!" And calls me mean. So should I be doing this? Does it hurt me and how?
The day it happens..you MIGHT be wanting to stab your penis and hammer your nuts. Be careful what you wish for....

Errm...to elaborate.
You tease, she hits you because she knows it's true.
 

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docs its been mad long whats up bro... and yes... your penis... hammer... balls... yes
 

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Originally posted by Docs
The day it happens..you MIGHT be wanting to stab your penis and hammer your nuts. Be careful what you wish for....
dude, i just experienced major shrinkage reading that.

anyways, i guess i should stop lol.

ANY MORE FEEDbACK NOT INVOLVED PULVERIZING MY GENITALS
 

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screw it, i'll repost the edit.

"Errm...to elaborate.
You tease, she hits you because she knows it's true."

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steroidsrule - Hey hey! I've been down...hit afc again. XD. yourself?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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docs hitting afc? no way i wont believe that.. your info is too good for that bro gotta have confidence
 

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when i start to see oit coming bro... i just go for social proof infront of her... in the long run i not only get her more interested in me... i also get myself less interested in her... works friggin wonders
 

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damnit >.<, if I wasn't single for 9 months...(5 before I found sosuave)...I might not be here..still learnin though.

Crap. I like her a lot too.
 

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bro listen to me... i went out with a girl for a week and she dumped me cause i went to a party without her... girls are nothing but bad news... i gotta make "lil chavez" happy... thats it.... ive been where you are though... even though you know in your mind that relationships suck... you still want one just to have it... i was the same way.... the way i see it... if i lose sleep over a girl its time to get it over with and make my move... rejection or victory... ill sleep great the following night
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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lose sleep -> move

That's a pretty good way of looking at it, might be worth a tip to other OIT victims.

I've been running scinarios though my head...when to do it..I was thinking of just flat out saying 'I like you', but recent threads proved that method disasterous.

Damnit...I was just thinking of waiting until closer to Christmas to pull it off...but coupling that with a gift...that's major AFC.

Crap. Crap. I better get the iron fist of almighty out...I'm going to need it soon.
 

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you see the thread on how you can compare girls liking guys to video games? thats my bible right there... i play more games than once could imagine... it never fails me... but yes gift + i like you is a major no no... make it interesting for them... women love the thrill of the catch
 

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I need a direct link, I must of missed it at some point.

I know it's nono!

How do I make it interesting?
(I hate being logical >.<)
 

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let me find you the link bro its so logical (i was born in germany so im all about logical)
 

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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ok that's cool. so how do i get this girl?? and what should i do if she tells me about him tryin to hit on her?? or "bothering her" as she puts it. she says she wants me to save her...but i am no captain save a ho
 

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she says she wants me to save her...but i am no captain save a ho



You want to save her, you get her to go out with you...lol.

Then you got freedom.

I guess..
 

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couldnt find it bro but ill say exactly what he said as i remember it :


girls liking guys is the same concept as guys liking video games

who wants a video game thats easy to beat in 1 day?
who wants a video game thats exactly like every other one?
who wants a video game that is too hard and is impossible to get anywhere?
who wants a video game that has no substance?
who is going to a buy a video game that isnt advertised?
who wants a video game that is predictable?
who wants a video game that doesnt change and has the same mission 24 times in a row?

understand the concept?
 

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btw if the person who wrote that reads it...make a comment on here because that is...in my opinion... the best piece of advice i have ever read because it hits home
 

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who wants a video game thats easy to beat in 1 day?
Noone!

who wants a video game thats exactly like every other one?
Depends..

who wants a video game that is too hard and is impossible to get anywhere?
Ewww!

who wants a video game that has no substance?
Simple games do it.

who is going to a buy a video game that isnt advertised?
Depends..the best games aren't advertised

who wants a video game that is predictable?
Everything is based on something

who wants a video game that doesnt change and has the same mission 24 times in a row?
Depends..if it's ****loads of fun and has a lot to do...

Concept understanding...Minimal, though I see the point...I'm a refuting son of a b!tch. :rolleyes:
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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