"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

Read more...

Is it rude for a girl to just leave the country with no warning?

lyracis

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
Met a hot Italian girl on the way to work. Exchange numbers set up a date. Have a really great first date, one of those first dates where you talk for hours, laugh a lot, smile a lot and end up having a steamy kiss. So naturally I'm looking forward to seeing her again and looking forwards even more to sleeping with her.

Then she throws me off balance at the end of the date when she goes cold and says she has an early flight in the morning and needs to get back. I walk her home and she says she'll call me when she's back.

I think nothing of it at first. I assume she went cold because she was embarassed at making out with a guy on the first date, especially as she said she wanted to kiss me first. And I assume since she is at language school and renting an expensive place in town that she's just gone away for the weekend.

But it has been over a week and she is still not back. I only have her english number so have no way of contacting her. I assume she has gone back home for Easter or something, but it strikes me as a bit odd that she did not mention this or give any indication of when she would be back.

Is she being rude or displaying lack of interest, or is this to be expected when a girl has to leave the country so early on after meeting a guy? Also is it weird she did not mention it except as an afterthought at the end of the date?
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

Read more...

thedeparted

Senior Don Juan
Joined
Aug 7, 2007
Messages
428
Reaction score
29
Of course it's rude -- but women do this all the time. Flush the number and forget about her.
 

Phyzzle

Master Don Juan
Joined
Jun 19, 2006
Messages
1,963
Reaction score
35
Maybe not rude, but "distant" would be the right word. It would have been more friendly to say when she was coming back, and not quickly say "wellIgottago,bye" before leaving for a month.

Did it not occur to you to ask her how long she would be? Or did she take off too quickly?
 

DJDamage

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 6, 2004
Messages
5,657
Reaction score
104
Location
Canada
lyracis said:
Is she being rude or displaying lack of interest, or is this to be expected when a girl has to leave the country so early on after meeting a guy? Also is it weird she did not mention it except as an afterthought at the end of the date?
The problem is not her but you.

This is why we advocate spining plates. When you do then you do not sit around for a week wondering about some random girl's whereabout.

It might not have been an ideal situation to go on a date a day before she goes on vacation and its a shortsighting on her part but this is has been only 1 DATE and if she is using that as an excuse or taking her sweet time to contact you then she ain't worth it.
 

lyracis

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I did not think to ask her when she would be back. Like I said she only mentioned she was off to Italy when she asked me to walk her home and as it was Thursday night I kinda assumed it would just be a long weekend or something as she was so vague about it.

I agree it is weird to accept a date knowing you have a vacation the next day without being upfront about it and bringing it up a lot sooner.

It is possible she is not able to contact me because she did not take her english mobile with her. I never take my mobile on holiday and im guessing she has an italian as well as an english mobile.

I agree I have to spin plates, as after one date a girl is not worth wondering about. I'm not a huge fan of playing the field, but under these circumstances it would be stupid to burn a torch for her and I'm sure she is going out and kissing other boys.

So I think the best medicine would just be to forget about her, get out and chat up some other girls, and if she gets back in contact at some stage in the future then think about giving her a second chance.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

Read more...

synergy1

Master Don Juan
Joined
Sep 22, 2006
Messages
1,984
Reaction score
192
is it rude to leave the country and go back home? seriously, grow a pair man. We live in a free world last time I checked, its not "rude" if she goes back home. If she flakes, she flakes...time to move on. Dwelling on that crap is counter productive.
 

mrRuckus

Master Don Juan
Joined
Feb 14, 2005
Messages
4,382
Reaction score
85
synergy1 said:
We live in a free world last time I checked, its not "rude" if she goes back home. .

Haha, we certainly do not live in a free world.
 

Mr. Me

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 19, 2007
Messages
1,356
Reaction score
84
I did not think to ask her when she would be back.
Good thing. Imagine how you would've come across if you did think to ask.

Like I said she only mentioned she was off to Italy when she asked me to walk her home
Gee, that's a great way of getting rid of someone! I think I'll try it too.

It is possible she is not able to contact me because she did not take her english mobile with her. I never take my mobile on holiday and im guessing she has an italian as well as an english mobile.
Wow, you sure guess a lot!

I agree I have to spin plates
Sure! Why not? That's what she does!

if she gets back in contact at some stage in the future
Mia congettura è che non state andando mai sentirsi ancora da lei. Arrivederci.
 

lyracis

Don Juan
Joined
Jun 29, 2007
Messages
17
Reaction score
0
I think "rude" was a poor choice of word. I think weird would have been better. Certainly I have never had a girl accept a first date and then leave the country the next day without making her plans perfectly clear so I knew where I stood.

Mr Me's interpretation I think is on the money. Obviously if you have no intention of seeing someone again it would not occur to tell them when you would back.

However I think it is a bit cynical saying she is pretending to leave the country to get rid of me. She is a student and most students are on vacation at the moment and it is entirely plausible she would go home for easter.

Anyway thanks guys for reminding me that it is stupid to care that a girl I just met is out of the country when there are so many other girls in the country that I can be chasing instead.
 

MatureDJ

Master Don Juan
Joined
Apr 30, 2006
Messages
12,754
Reaction score
5,164
I don't see what the problem is. She told you that she was leaving and would call you back. Until she would call you back, forget about her. If she has interest in you, she'll contact you.

SPIN MORE PLATES!
 

“The 22 Rules That Turned Me From Invisible to Irresistible With Women… Starting Tonight”

You can skip the expensive cars, the fancy clothes, and the endless gym selfies. Completely unnecessary.

I used to freeze the second a beautiful woman looked my way. Frustrated. Awkward. Watching other guys walk away with the girl while I stood there tongue-tied.

Then I discovered 22 simple rules that rewired my entire dating life. The anxiety vanished. Conversations flowed effortlessly. Women started chasing me for a change.

These rules trigger a woman's subconscious attraction switches. And you can start using them tonight.

Read more...

decades

Master Don Juan
Joined
Aug 3, 2004
Messages
1,223
Reaction score
35
Location
sf ca
if she is a hot Italian girl you are not the only guy she is being rude to.
 

Mr. Me

Master Don Juan
Joined
Dec 19, 2007
Messages
1,356
Reaction score
84
I think it is a bit cynical saying she is pretending to leave the country to get rid of me.
Doesn't mean it's not possible.

I think it's also cynical to believe something like that a prosecuting attorney who goes after prostitution rings would himself ever be a client of one of them. That could never happen!
 
Top