"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

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Is it possible to succeed in cold approach if you NEVER get eye contact IOI from womem?

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Most pickup advice tends to center around saying you should wait for a girl to make and sustain eye contact and maybe smile before you start a pickup. That way she preselects you and youre already in.

But what if this never happens? Ever? I always figured this is just **** that happens to tall white guys so I should forget about it. I just ignored this nonsense and kept going.

But in retrospect every guy I've ever known who's done well with women in any context has been at least good looking enough to get sustained eye contact or girls lingering around him in bars/clubs.

I literally can name no exceptions.

So my question is: if you're too short/ugly/nonwhite to be getting these kinds of IOIs is there any point in even bothering with cold approach?

Ive had my own rare successes with cold approach despite no IOIs but that was more when I was younger and I could afford the time to go out 3 times a week. Nowadays the amount of volume I'd have to plow through seems prohibitive.

Anyone getting success without any IOIs ever?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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You know, I notice I get a fair amount of eye contact from females of all ages, some of them even smile at me. It seems a little odd to me, because I figure I'm just average looking. But I don't think all those girls are interested, I don't think they're all IOIs. Some are probably just looking to check if it's someone worth looking at or not. And some are probably thinking "Look at that nice old man, he reminds me of my grandpa" lol.

But I have a long time girlfriend so I can't answer your cold approach question. I do talk to random girls in my vicinity when I can, but I don't do it based on eye contact. I do it more based on whether or not I have something I want to say.
 

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Yes but. Its obv easier with being eye ****ed. Then again, she picked you. Not tyr other way around.
 

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Most pickup advice tends to center around saying you should wait for a girl to make and sustain eye contact and maybe smile before you start a pickup. That way she preselects you and youre already in.

But what if this never happens? Ever? I always figured this is just **** that happens to tall white guys so I should forget about it. I just ignored this nonsense and kept going.

But in retrospect every guy I've ever known who's done well with women in any context has been at least good looking enough to get sustained eye contact or girls lingering around him in bars/clubs.

I literally can name no exceptions.

So my question is: if you're too short/ugly/nonwhite to be getting these kinds of IOIs is there any point in even bothering with cold approach?

Ive had my own rare successes with cold approach despite no IOIs but that was more when I was younger and I could afford the time to go out 3 times a week. Nowadays the amount of volume I'd have to plow through seems prohibitive.

Anyone getting success without any IOIs ever?
If you are super ugly than no probably not. The guy would have to take a good look at himself and be honest. If he isn't ugly and simply average.....than it's a numbers game really. Not all women go for the same "look" you have to keep that in mind. Too many guys have been brainwashed into thinking you need to fit a certain "profile". Just today I saw an instagram "model" with her boyfriend it was some fat dorky looking guy,
 

"You'll Never Feel READY to Walk Over"

Next Monday you'll feel more confident. After the gym you'll feel more confident. After one more drink you'll feel more confident. After you get a better haircut, a better jacket, a better job.

You've been "getting ready" for two years.

She's standing ten feet away right now. She'll be gone in four minutes. No amount of preparation will manufacture the courage that only comes from moving your feet.

Walk over. Stumble through the first sentence. Let it be clumsy. Let it be imperfect. You will feel more alive in those ten seconds than you have all month.

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