"She's Out of Your League"

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Is it OK to friendzone yourself to get at her friends?

BackInTheGame78

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If you know its not going anywhere with a woman, is it OK to purposely try to become friends with her to try and get at her friends? IE, say something like "You know you seem like a cool person and someone that would make a nice friend", effectively telling her that you aren't interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with her anymore(and actually be serious about not pursuing her).

Then keep talking to her and try and meet up with her and her friends when they go out and then try and get at her friends...

Any thoughts on this? Or would she pretty much shoot you down to her friends because she wasn't interested in you?
 

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I wouldn't drop the friend line specifically. I'd just communicate a friend vibe and try to hang out with her and her friends in groups.
 

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BackInTheGame78 said:
If you know its not going anywhere with a woman, is it OK to purposely try to become friends with her to try and get at her friends? IE, say something like "You know you seem like a cool person and someone that would make a nice friend", effectively telling her that you aren't interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with her anymore(and actually be serious about not pursuing her).

Then keep talking to her and try and meet up with her and her friends when they go out and then try and get at her friends...

Any thoughts on this? Or would she pretty much shoot you down to her friends because she wasn't interested in you?

I think it would be ok,but it'd be kinda of a delicate situation to try to pull off.

In a true,friendzone situation,the girl herself would likely even try to set you up with one of her friends. But this thing you said here.......


IE, say something like "You know you seem like a cool person and someone that would make a nice friend", effectively telling her that you aren't interested in pursuing a romantic relationship with her anymore
...that won't cut it. Cause NO MATTER WHAT YOU SAY.....if it results in you letting her know that you no longer have interest in pursuing her,she's gonna take it as rejection....no matter how nicely or gently you try to say it.

....and she'll BE DAMNED before she lets you reject her,then go after one of her friends. Even if she has no interest in you herself,YOU TRYING TO MOVE ON will make her either dis you to her friends,make her try to win you over even more,or c0ckblock all your efforts to get at her friends.


So yeah,it's not a bad idea,but SHE HAS TO BE THE ONE to bring up "friendship".....NOT YOU. If you do it,her ego will be injured
and she'll do everything in her power to either fix it,or do whatever she can to see YOU FAIL with her friends so she won't feel so bad that way.

No woman wants to see her friends win over a guy that she herself got rejected by.
 
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