gongxia649
Don Juan
being an afc is not bad after all.
"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"
She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.
You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.
She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.
The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.
Is it ok for me to cry now? ... but im a man
- Thread starter Weak_Game
- Start date
"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."
Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.
Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?
You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.
Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.
Check out this 5 year old post.
Oh wait, but WHAT'S THIS?
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18350
Less than two weeks later, they broke up, and he's been broken-hearted since.
~Phyzzle
Holy crap, he did what your doing, WeakGame, and it actually worked!? It defies explanation.
Oh wait, but WHAT'S THIS?
http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=18350
Less than two weeks later, they broke up, and he's been broken-hearted since.
~Phyzzle
tmpgstx
Master Don Juan
Something doesn't compute about this Weak_Point, for her to be so cold-shouldered and then when you profess your love, she balls. I don't mean to sound negative, but sounds like she's been seeing someone else and the guilt spilled over at that moment. She's contacting you and maybe prepping you for an easy letdown sometime after the trip.
You did a good respectable thing, let's see what happens.
You did a good respectable thing, let's see what happens.
DJ_in_making
Master Don Juan
Exactly, a MAN doesn't seek validation for his emotions.virtual_insanity said:
Listen to your grandfather, he's right.
Find another girl. I would of qualified her long ago and realized that she doesn't cut it.
And stop your crying and grow the fuc-k up. Be a man and take charge of your life. When you do that women will come to you.
And stop your crying and grow the fuc-k up. Be a man and take charge of your life. When you do that women will come to you.
"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"
You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.
And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.
Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.
The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.
A man should always try to show strength. There are few times in a mans life when he cries. A death or perhaps even the birth of his child are fine.DJ_in_making said:
To constantly cry over a girl is just down right pathetic. That kind of stuff is ok for a woman but not for a man.
justsomeguy1984
Don Juan
Well it looks like being an AFC got her back for the time being, but I guarantee that continuing to act like an AFC will not keep her around for long... Now you have to start acting like a man.gongxia649 said:
spider_007
Master Don Juan
well if you asked me 5-6 hours ago, i'd say; NO MEN SHOULDN'T CRY.
But few hours back, my grandmother died (to who i was very close to) and yes, i cryed, and probably will again.
But few hours back, my grandmother died (to who i was very close to) and yes, i cryed, and probably will again.
Huge update and finally an end to this soap opera of a post and my life with this girl:
Now my memory is gonna be a little foggy because its 4am and im trying to recall the details that have happend over the past month, bare with me if i leave anything of importance out.
We both ended up getting back from our weekend long trips. Found out she called and texted me a few times while i was gone. I didnt bring my phone due to it being a vacation. She probably wanted to ruin any fun while i was out.
During the vacation i almost ended up in a hot tub with my friend and 2 other girls drunk as hell. Both girls didnt have baithing suits and were fine with getting naked, along with the fact the jacuzzi was small. Therefore they would have to sit on our laps... Naked girls, drunk in a jacuzzi with 2 naked guys at 3am. My friend kept saying how easily it would have been to just swap them around while ****ing them. Girls can be the biggest sluts. But our epic jacuzzi event didnt happen and im kinda glad it didnt. Due to the hot water heater breaking and only having cold water. Girls went home and i passed out somewhere at the beach house condo.
We talked some and from what i can remeber. We met up at the park again to talk. It was dusk and it was a little awkward but good to see her smile again. After the park we were gonna go out but ended up going to my place and talking more. Of course one thing leads to another and we ended up Fcuking all night. 4-5 times. God we would just have sex, eat relax, have sex again, take a nap, have sex again. This went on all night for a good 6-8 hours. Nothing but insane make up sex. We both were in love.
She kept wondering if i hooked up with someone. I didn't, i could have but i saved her details. She claims she didnt. But making me feel un easy she ended up sleeping in a tent with this guy for a few days. Now he has a girlfriend who wasnt there. But he would have if given the opportunity. She was drinking and got hammered a few nights. This guy is a 3 if im a 8 (i met him at some point and one ugly mofo). If she choose to hook up with him for whatever reason.
Id actually feel bad for her. Im sure he made advances but i got over the idea of him fuking her. Maybe she would maybe she wouldnt. I let it go, it wouldnt help me dwelling on it.
We decide to date again and work on our relationship. Both agreed it would be better for us to see each other more. If we were going to party to go together.
Pretty much the opposite of what actually happend though. We ended up going out alot. And im not even one to go out. But we never went with each other. Many times we would meet up after the bars closed. Slept together whatever. Or just do our own thing. For a month this went on.
Now another problem is im not much of a "party guy". I dont need to go out i dont need the social interaction of that scene. Ive been living in the gym for the past 4 years like its all i have left. The plus side is i look good. Now im thrown into a scene with guys who do nothing but party, drink, get **** for sleep, and dont workout (or do and it dosent look it).
After awhile that lifestyle puts a toll on you. So without even trying i get insane amounts of female attention. When i would go out with the boys the past month, girls would hit on me, give me there numbers without asking, i even had a girl write her number on my hand(wich i would go to the bathroom after and wash it off). Or come up and tell me im the hottest guy in the bar. Inflates the ego x1000 weather its an hb2 or an hb9. Its nice to hear but it just made me feel more like crap. Im in a commited relationship. Im putting myself in a singles scene. Asking to get hit on. Of course i decline without hesitation, i thank girls for the compliment. I may chat it up for a few but i never keep there numbers or take any home. I still meet up with my gf at the end of the night. But it gets old fast. I actually miss not going out.
((pook wrote up an article somewhere here about not even doing anything once you hit 200+ lbs and under 12% bodyfat. You just stand there and they approach you, its very true and worth the read, now im 5'11 sitting at 210lbs around 9% bodyfat.))
We have gone out together a few times where i was hit on within sight. This HB8 was trying to feel my arms and chest. Now because i was in view of my gf who was at a table chatting with her friends. I pointed out that my girlfriend was sitting over there. HB8 even went as far to say "would she be pissed if i tried to kiss you right now". I didnt even know what to say but i ejected. Girls are evil. Then half the night HB8 was putting herself in my view to dance. I even told my gf about it and both of them were playing games with each other in my presence. Like my girl would plant kisses on me when the other girl was around. SO very un needed and i would of rather stayed home. I dont live for this crap.
So in recap we have been together for the past month. Things have been iffy. No where near the same. Its like were still single but only seeing each other to an extent. Sleep overs, calling, talking hanging out. But its nothing like before. I feel distant. We have had a few fights and problems the past month but nothing to merit a break up. Now onto the real drama from the past 2 weeks. This is where the power struggle comes in and shi+ in general just hits the fan.
Just wanted to be update on the past month.
Now my memory is gonna be a little foggy because its 4am and im trying to recall the details that have happend over the past month, bare with me if i leave anything of importance out.
We both ended up getting back from our weekend long trips. Found out she called and texted me a few times while i was gone. I didnt bring my phone due to it being a vacation. She probably wanted to ruin any fun while i was out.
During the vacation i almost ended up in a hot tub with my friend and 2 other girls drunk as hell. Both girls didnt have baithing suits and were fine with getting naked, along with the fact the jacuzzi was small. Therefore they would have to sit on our laps... Naked girls, drunk in a jacuzzi with 2 naked guys at 3am. My friend kept saying how easily it would have been to just swap them around while ****ing them. Girls can be the biggest sluts. But our epic jacuzzi event didnt happen and im kinda glad it didnt. Due to the hot water heater breaking and only having cold water. Girls went home and i passed out somewhere at the beach house condo.
We talked some and from what i can remeber. We met up at the park again to talk. It was dusk and it was a little awkward but good to see her smile again. After the park we were gonna go out but ended up going to my place and talking more. Of course one thing leads to another and we ended up Fcuking all night. 4-5 times. God we would just have sex, eat relax, have sex again, take a nap, have sex again. This went on all night for a good 6-8 hours. Nothing but insane make up sex. We both were in love.
She kept wondering if i hooked up with someone. I didn't, i could have but i saved her details. She claims she didnt. But making me feel un easy she ended up sleeping in a tent with this guy for a few days. Now he has a girlfriend who wasnt there. But he would have if given the opportunity. She was drinking and got hammered a few nights. This guy is a 3 if im a 8 (i met him at some point and one ugly mofo). If she choose to hook up with him for whatever reason.
Id actually feel bad for her. Im sure he made advances but i got over the idea of him fuking her. Maybe she would maybe she wouldnt. I let it go, it wouldnt help me dwelling on it.We decide to date again and work on our relationship. Both agreed it would be better for us to see each other more. If we were going to party to go together.
Pretty much the opposite of what actually happend though. We ended up going out alot. And im not even one to go out. But we never went with each other. Many times we would meet up after the bars closed. Slept together whatever. Or just do our own thing. For a month this went on.
Now another problem is im not much of a "party guy". I dont need to go out i dont need the social interaction of that scene. Ive been living in the gym for the past 4 years like its all i have left. The plus side is i look good. Now im thrown into a scene with guys who do nothing but party, drink, get **** for sleep, and dont workout (or do and it dosent look it).
After awhile that lifestyle puts a toll on you. So without even trying i get insane amounts of female attention. When i would go out with the boys the past month, girls would hit on me, give me there numbers without asking, i even had a girl write her number on my hand(wich i would go to the bathroom after and wash it off). Or come up and tell me im the hottest guy in the bar. Inflates the ego x1000 weather its an hb2 or an hb9. Its nice to hear but it just made me feel more like crap. Im in a commited relationship. Im putting myself in a singles scene. Asking to get hit on. Of course i decline without hesitation, i thank girls for the compliment. I may chat it up for a few but i never keep there numbers or take any home. I still meet up with my gf at the end of the night. But it gets old fast. I actually miss not going out.
((pook wrote up an article somewhere here about not even doing anything once you hit 200+ lbs and under 12% bodyfat. You just stand there and they approach you, its very true and worth the read, now im 5'11 sitting at 210lbs around 9% bodyfat.))
We have gone out together a few times where i was hit on within sight. This HB8 was trying to feel my arms and chest. Now because i was in view of my gf who was at a table chatting with her friends. I pointed out that my girlfriend was sitting over there. HB8 even went as far to say "would she be pissed if i tried to kiss you right now". I didnt even know what to say but i ejected. Girls are evil. Then half the night HB8 was putting herself in my view to dance. I even told my gf about it and both of them were playing games with each other in my presence. Like my girl would plant kisses on me when the other girl was around. SO very un needed and i would of rather stayed home. I dont live for this crap.
So in recap we have been together for the past month. Things have been iffy. No where near the same. Its like were still single but only seeing each other to an extent. Sleep overs, calling, talking hanging out. But its nothing like before. I feel distant. We have had a few fights and problems the past month but nothing to merit a break up. Now onto the real drama from the past 2 weeks. This is where the power struggle comes in and shi+ in general just hits the fan.
Just wanted to be update on the past month.
"She's Out of Your League"
You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.
Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.
She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.
Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.
Blusher
Senior Don Juan
You appear to be a very decent guy.
I am sure you can do better than this girl.
I am sure you can do better than this girl.
MightyMate
Master Don Juan
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Dont cry. Use the thing that You havent used yet. Say that You love her and thats why You are so jealous etc. Should help.