"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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Perhaps this has been covered before, but I will raise it again.

I seem to see a lot of reasonably decent looking women (7-7.5, the odd 8) walking around town at night with dweeby dorks, out of shape, slack-jawed drips.

Why the fvck is that.

I live in Auckland, New Zealand.

Anyway else from large metropolises in other parts of the world notice this phenomonen?
 

"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Zunder said:
Perhaps this has been covered before, but I will raise it again.

I seem to see a lot of reasonably decent looking women (7-7.5, the odd 8) walking around town at night with dweeby dorks, out of shape, slack-jawed drips.

Why the fvck is that.

I live in Auckland, New Zealand.

Anyway else from large metropolises in other parts of the world notice this phenomonen?
They had the balls to say "hi". :p That's all.

For every one dork you see walking around with a hot girl, there are 20 studly guys (like you??) who got cold feet, thought, "out of my league", and p*ssied out.
 

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^Maybe so. I think (in the US at least) there has been a bit of a shift in the 'type' of guy your average girl will go for. Just sort of an undulation of culture. Classically you expect the tall stud with muscles and charm to get the lion's share, but that isnt the flavor of the moment. I'm a bigger guy and I dont find my size has any positive bearing on the amount of female attention I get. I think it used to, but not so much anymore.
 

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Maybe they offer respect and appreciation and make the girls feel valued?
 

"She Made Her Decision Before You Finished Your Sentence"

Three seconds. That's how long it took. Your shoes. Your posture. The way you held your drink. Whether you looked at the floor or looked at her.

She already filed you away. Interesting. Boring. Safe. Bold. Before you even opened your mouth.

Everything you say after that is just her confirming what she already decided.

So stop rehearsing lines. Fix the first three seconds. Stand tall. Look up. Smile like you mean it. Walk like you belong wherever you're standing.

The words come later. The impression comes first.

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Colossus said:
^Maybe so. I think (in the US at least) there has been a bit of a shift in the 'type' of guy your average girl will go for. Just sort of an undulation of culture. Classically you expect the tall stud with muscles and charm to get the lion's share, but that isnt the flavor of the moment. I'm a bigger guy and I dont find my size has any positive bearing on the amount of female attention I get. I think it used to, but not so much anymore.
:crackup:

Incredible.

So men's body type, height, build and style may all be subject to fashion and trends ?
How do you feel boys?
 
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Ha. Maybe they are all pick up artists. You can be a complete dweeb and land hotties. Isn't that what they teach?
 

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You remember when you used to be scared of the girls in high school, then some dork would roll up to one and you'd think to yourself, "LOL what right does that douche think he has to talk to that girl?"

Then you'd think to yourself, "Wow, why isn't she shutting him down? Is she actually INTERESTED??"
 

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So true squirrels. I have some gorgeous friends who date absolute goobers because sometimes they are the only ones who have the balls to approach a beautiful girl.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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jophil28 said:
:crackup:

Incredible.

So men's body type, height, build and style may all be subject to fashion and trends ?
How do you feel boys?
Well, just going from the girls I know, they tend to like the similar 'types' of guys. Kinda skinny, a little scruffy, indie-surfer looking dudes. Maybe it's just the girls I hang with, lol. Even when I go out though, I feel like I dont get checked out HALF as much as I used to. I'm 6', 245lbs, which is bigger than average but not obnoxious. I'm not fat, I dress decent.

Sometimes I think they respond more so to clothes than they do body type. I'm serious. Girls love to shame guys for being shallow about looks but they are sometimes the worst offenders.
 

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Ha. Maybe they are all pick up artists. You can be a complete dweeb and land hotties. Isn't that what they teach?
Ha, good point. Maybe they have "confidence".

I think it's hard for a guy to see another guy the way a girl sees him.
We may think a guy is nothing but a girl might see him differently through her eyes.

And the reverse is often true too. Ever notice a girl will make a comment on how ugly a girl is when she's really smoking hot? And this morning my girlfriend made a comment about a girl being cute when she looked straight up nasty to me.
 

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If I were as big as Colossus, I wouldn't even wear a shirt when I go out. Delaware must be a scary ass place if he's only "bigger than average"
 

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Kiwiland isn't exactly known for having many attractive men, is it? :p Maybe the women are... settling? j/k

In Melbourne & Sydney, the current favourite of the girls is the Brit pop star look - skinny, stubble-faced but effeminate looking, emo, cute but not classically handsome guys. e.g they appear gay in pretty much every way except that they happen to like vaj instead of d1ck.
 

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Jitterbug said:
Kiwiland isn't exactly known for having many attractive men, is it? :p Maybe the women are... settling? j/k

In Melbourne & Sydney, the current favourite of the girls is the Brit pop star look - skinny, stubble-faced but effeminate looking, emo, cute but not classically handsome guys. e.g they appear gay in pretty much every way except that they happen to like vaj instead of d1ck.
I don't get this thing about chicks going for faggy skinny dudes. What the fok is wrong with them.

Oh, and what does it feel like to have a cricket team not much better than ours? LMAO
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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I don't get this thing about chicks going for faggy skinny dudes. What the fok is wrong with them.
Me neither, man. It's like an epidemic. There's gotta be someplace in the world where big dudes are still appreciated, lol.
 

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Me neither, man. It's like an epidemic. There's gotta be someplace in the world where big dudes are still appreciated, lol.
I might be paranoid but I and the shadowy figures that are hunting me down, think that there is a slow but steady global feminization of the male population. It's not some trend that started a few years ago. In the seventies women actually went wild for guys that had hair on their chest. Now a lot of girls think it's gross. Used to be a time when I guy would head down to the local watering hole for a few brews with his buddies, while the women did their women things back home. Now it's common to hear guys chirping on about how Twilight or w/e latest rom-com "wasn't that bad, actually pretty funny." Pfft, twinkle toes.

You know that saying about the frogs in boiling water? Well, that frog is hetersexual males and the boiling point is complete demasculinization.
 

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There is no question that men are being feminized.

Notwithstanding, this "get big and muscular to get girls" is the world's worst kept secret. When you go out, the bars and clubs are full of big bulky Affliction t-shirt wearing guys. Maybe it's losing it's effect because it's becoming too common. It might make the skinny pretty boy stand out more.
 
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