"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Is it even worth taking personally?

ElStud

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Okay so basically, if a group of girls is talking to you one day, but f*cking ignores you another day. Should you take it personally? I'm just saying that there's like this group of girls I'm with at lunch and none of them bothered to even say "Hi". Yet I was talking to these girls other days and they were all over me. So I'm THINKING about just ignoring these girls from now on, but I don't know if I should take it so personally. And yeah, that's the situation. Also, how do I make these girls more interested? I'm pretty sure they're NOT that interested right now, despite the laughs and interest. I see them giving a lot of other guys more interest, how do I get them that interested?
 

"How I Made Sure No Woman Ever Friend-Zoned Me Again"

She calls you when her car breaks down. When she needs help moving. When some guy she's actually dating treats her badly.

You're the listener. The reliable one. The guy who would treat her so much better, if she'd just open her eyes.

She won't. You trained her to see you as the low-effort option — the friend who requires zero risk and zero investment. Every favor dug the hole deeper.

The "22 Rules" break the pattern. You'll stop auditioning for a role she already cast and become the man she chases instead. It starts with Rule 1.

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You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.

WHY are they not talking to ME? They SEEMED so INTERESTED the other day. What am I DOING WRONG?

I can tell you, but it'll hurt your feelings, and your humbleness.




You are EXPECTING an OUTCOME.

Let me outline, in very simple detail what I think about that.









B A D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There is NO point in expecting an outcome. All you can do is say, I'm interested in talking to this chick, and I could give two flying fvcks about whether she's interested back.

Because, when you EXPECT something, you will NEVER EVER EVER get what you expect. Not only that, it WARPS your ACTIONS, THOUGHTS and your REACTION when she does the UNEXPECTED.

So, stop looking for an end result and learn to flow with it. :up:
 

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Great advice, but really stop that kiddie putting words in my mouth crap, Docs, this is the Don Juan Discussion forum, not kindergarden.

You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.
Nobody "proclaimed" themselves a pimp. You must of said that because I most certainly didn't. I don't care for your kiddie "assumptions" if I do not say something don't put words in my mouth. Girls call me "Big Pimpin", deal with it, that's the girls fault not mines. But I NEVER proclaimed to be a PIMP, like you fabricate in your post.
 

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No, you should not take it personally.

And also remember that you are the man, you should be the one saying hi to the girls, not the other way around.


Now if you were saying hi to them and they ignored you... that's a whole different story.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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I'm assuming you're talking about the same group of girls that gave you names. If it's not, then whatever. I missed a critical detail you failed to provide.

Whatever the case may be, you really shouldn't be focusing on my use of words. It proves a point, and I'm clearly not wrong. That's the only point you are required to accept.
 

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Docs said:
You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.

WHY are they not talking to ME? They SEEMED so INTERESTED the other day. What am I DOING WRONG?

I can tell you, but it'll hurt your feelings, and your humbleness.




You are EXPECTING an OUTCOME.

Let me outline, in very simple detail what I think about that.









B A D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There is NO point in expecting an outcome. All you can do is say, I'm interested in talking to this chick, and I could give two flying fvcks about whether she's interested back.

Because, when you EXPECT something, you will NEVER EVER EVER get what you expect. Not only that, it WARPS your ACTIONS, THOUGHTS and your REACTION when she does the UNEXPECTED.

So, stop looking for an end result and learn to flow with it. :up:
This should be in the bible..
 
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