"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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Is it even worth taking personally?

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Okay so basically, if a group of girls is talking to you one day, but f*cking ignores you another day. Should you take it personally? I'm just saying that there's like this group of girls I'm with at lunch and none of them bothered to even say "Hi". Yet I was talking to these girls other days and they were all over me. So I'm THINKING about just ignoring these girls from now on, but I don't know if I should take it so personally. And yeah, that's the situation. Also, how do I make these girls more interested? I'm pretty sure they're NOT that interested right now, despite the laughs and interest. I see them giving a lot of other guys more interest, how do I get them that interested?
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.

WHY are they not talking to ME? They SEEMED so INTERESTED the other day. What am I DOING WRONG?

I can tell you, but it'll hurt your feelings, and your humbleness.




You are EXPECTING an OUTCOME.

Let me outline, in very simple detail what I think about that.









B A D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There is NO point in expecting an outcome. All you can do is say, I'm interested in talking to this chick, and I could give two flying fvcks about whether she's interested back.

Because, when you EXPECT something, you will NEVER EVER EVER get what you expect. Not only that, it WARPS your ACTIONS, THOUGHTS and your REACTION when she does the UNEXPECTED.

So, stop looking for an end result and learn to flow with it. :up:
 

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Great advice, but really stop that kiddie putting words in my mouth crap, Docs, this is the Don Juan Discussion forum, not kindergarden.

You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.
Nobody "proclaimed" themselves a pimp. You must of said that because I most certainly didn't. I don't care for your kiddie "assumptions" if I do not say something don't put words in my mouth. Girls call me "Big Pimpin", deal with it, that's the girls fault not mines. But I NEVER proclaimed to be a PIMP, like you fabricate in your post.
 

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No, you should not take it personally.

And also remember that you are the man, you should be the one saying hi to the girls, not the other way around.


Now if you were saying hi to them and they ignored you... that's a whole different story.
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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I'm assuming you're talking about the same group of girls that gave you names. If it's not, then whatever. I missed a critical detail you failed to provide.

Whatever the case may be, you really shouldn't be focusing on my use of words. It proves a point, and I'm clearly not wrong. That's the only point you are required to accept.
 

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Docs said:
You mean you're not the PIMP you so proclaimed?
Clearly you've taken this personally.

WHY are they not talking to ME? They SEEMED so INTERESTED the other day. What am I DOING WRONG?

I can tell you, but it'll hurt your feelings, and your humbleness.




You are EXPECTING an OUTCOME.

Let me outline, in very simple detail what I think about that.









B A D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



There is NO point in expecting an outcome. All you can do is say, I'm interested in talking to this chick, and I could give two flying fvcks about whether she's interested back.

Because, when you EXPECT something, you will NEVER EVER EVER get what you expect. Not only that, it WARPS your ACTIONS, THOUGHTS and your REACTION when she does the UNEXPECTED.

So, stop looking for an end result and learn to flow with it. :up:
This should be in the bible..
 
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