"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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Is it beta to ask for a hug?

“The 22 Rules That Flip the Script With Women… And How You Can Use Them Tonight”

Most guys accidentally kill attraction before they even speak. They assume they need a bigger bank account, a better physique, or smoother lines. They miss the point.

Female desire operates on a specific set of psychological triggers.  Break them, and you're invisible. Follow them, and you become magnetic.

I learned this the hard way. Years of freezing up. Getting friend-zoned. Watching other guys walk away with the girl I wanted. Then I discovered a set of 22 simple rules that rewired my entire approach.

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Strelok

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What it works for me is raising an arm keeping the same position with my feet and have her coming to me( as u're offering protection being the you taller than the avg woman).

Ask is seriously too low, can you imagine to watch the scene in 3rd person where you look at her and say "can I hug you?" or you going out of your way open your arms and hug there.

I say let her come or strongly suggest her to come.
 

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You're looking into this way too much. It's a hug for gods sake. Whether you hug her, or ask for one, or she hugs you, it doesn't matter. She's not gonna think "oh he just asked me for a hug what a lower social being." She's gonna hug you and be happy about it.

EDIT: But if you ask, don't say "can I hug you?" Say "give me a hug!"
 

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If you found this thread so beta, where your desire to be part of it came from?
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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Strelok said:
If you found this thread so beta, where your desire to be part of it came from?

to be honest it seriously is ****ing beta
 

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Strelok said:
If you found this thread so beta, where your desire to be part of it came from?
For god's sake...it's a hug. Not a date. Not sex. Who cares.

People need to man up and stop asking "PUA advice" on every damn detail of their interaction with others.

"Is it beta to say thank you?" "Is it beta to let the woman drive?"

No, it's beta to doubt yourself about crap that doesn't even matter.
 

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Mantis Toboggan said:
For god's sake...it's a hug. Not a date. Not sex. Who cares.

People need to man up and stop asking "PUA advice" on every damn detail of their interaction with others.

"Is it beta to say thank you?" "Is it beta to let the woman drive?"

No, it's beta to doubt yourself about crap that doesn't even matter.
The OP is under 20 posts therefore he cannot exactly establish what is right to ask and what is a non sense, I'm sure you all know the confusion to which average men are subject out there,so since it costed me no effort to give him a general suggestion I did that.

I'm not saying this thread is beta or not, I simply asked if this thread doesnt have the necessary requirements to be considered serious why you felt the need to take part of it? same question to scribblec.

You guys are entitled to your opinion as much as you have any right to ignore something you find unworthy, however I see no reason to come just to shot down the op's request.

You say men need to "man up", dont you think in order to do so they need to be leaded, especially the new members who still suffers from social conditioning?

Probably the best answer to give to the op was simply to stop considering small events as important and focus on the bigger picture, I didnt think about that myself either.
 

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i felt the need to partake because i felt like it really , i remember i used to think of all the petty things i used to worry about, but hindsight is a beautyful thing and if only i was told not to worry about this **** from the start my progress would of been much quicker then the 3 years it took :p
 
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