"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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Is it best to go ghost in the face of impending friend zone?

teddy

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Yeah, I know, I'm not supposed to be in this position in the first place, blah, blah, blah, but I can't become perfect overnight. I'm getting better, but still need work and I know that.

But if you're sensing an impending friend zone, is it best to just go ghost for a while? Seems like the only way to increase interest if there ever was any.
 

"She Laughed All Night. Then She Ghosted You. Here's Why."

Dinner ran three hours. She laughed at everything. You walked her to her car thinking this one's locked in.

Then: nothing. Two texts. No reply. What happened?

You did what most men do on a great date. You filled every silence, answered every question, and left her with nothing to wonder about. No mystery. Nothing to sit with when she got home.

Rule 3 of the "22 Rules" changes the ending: tell her a little, hold back the rest, and let her imagination do the chasing. The ghosting stops too.

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What I do is, I say that I don't believe in friendship among sexes and I do believe it's true!

It might be too extreme for you so leading the conversation there, you can make yourself clear that you can't be a friend with a beautiful woman! She will probably ask you why. Well, nature made us guys that way! We tend to like a beautifull woman so we can't see her as a friend! We can't talk to her like we would to our buddies cause it's our nature to want her for something else!

I don't think going ghost will give her any clue to be honest! She might wonder why but she won't be able to figure it out if you haven't made your intentions clear! Don't confuse interest with curiosity of what happened all of the sudden.
 

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teddy said:
But if you're sensing an impending friend zone, is it best to just go ghost for a while? Seems like the only way to increase interest if there ever was any.
Flawed reasoning^

You dont go "no contact" to increase interest. You go no contact to get over a girl. In this case, although you may have selected the best tactic....the reasoning is incorrect.

You need to start thinking in terms of being "the prize". Why would you want to chase a girl and make her interested in you? Instead...think about finding women who ARE interested in you and hook up with them. There are billions on the planet earth....you're bound to find a few.

FORGET THIS ONE. If she comes back, she comes back. If she doesnt, she doesnt.
 

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TheException said:
Flawed reasoning^

You dont go "no contact" to increase interest. You go no contact to get over a girl. In this case, although you may have selected the best tactic....the reasoning is incorrect.

You need to start thinking in terms of being "the prize". Why would you want to chase a girl and make her interested in you? Instead...think about finding women who ARE interested in you and hook up with them. There are billions on the planet earth....you're bound to find a few.

FORGET THIS ONE. If she comes back, she comes back. If she doesnt, she doesnt.
Yeah, you're right. My mindset has been pretty good recently, I've been working on this. I should think more like, "okay, I'm dropping her because she obviously doesn't want to be with an awesome, sexy guy like me. Let's see if this next chick takes up the opportunity."
 

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DonJuanit0 said:
What I do is, I say that I don't believe in friendship among sexes and I do believe it's true!

It might be too extreme for you so leading the conversation there, you can make yourself clear that you can't be a friend with a beautiful woman! She will probably ask you why. Well, nature made us guys that way! We tend to like a beautifull woman so we can't see her as a friend! We can't talk to her like we would to our buddies cause it's our nature to want her for something else!

I don't think going ghost will give her any clue to be honest! She might wonder why but she won't be able to figure it out if you haven't made your intentions clear! Don't confuse interest with curiosity of what happened all of the sudden.
You're right, but I actually did make my intentions clear (though a little too late for my liking). Obviously, I think I screwed this one up.
 

"You Can't Argue a Woman Into Liking You"

You made your case like a lawyer. Stable job. Good guy. Ready for something real. All true. All irrelevant.

She weighed your points, nodded along, felt nothing — then fell hard for some tattooed bartender with a motorcycle and a gambling problem.

Logic is where attraction goes to die. The "22 Rules" work a level deeper, on the subconscious switches that decide within minutes whether you register as a MAN or as part of the furniture.

Stop presenting evidence. Start flipping switches.

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Firstly if you dont want to be in the friendzone. Fvck the friendship, write it off now, stop trying to save face and "not be that guy" because that's all crap.

Secondly, she will have a hard time seeing you as a friend if you keep trying to fvck her. So make sure there is no doubt(that usually takes time) she may give you the "you're just a brother to me" but again that's all crap, you can work through that by being so god damn sexual she cannot ignore it.
 

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Mr Wright said:
Firstly if you dont want to be in the friendzone. Fvck the friendship, write it off now, stop trying to save face and "not be that guy" because that's all crap.

Secondly, she will have a hard time seeing you as a friend if you keep trying to fvck her. So make sure there is no doubt(that usually takes time) she may give you the "you're just a brother to me" but again that's all crap, you can work through that by being so god damn sexual she cannot ignore it.
So going ghost doesn't help?
 

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The world is a small place, you may see this girl again a year from now.

Show your affection, give her a chance to bite, if it's not making you happy cut her azz off and keep living your life. Maybe next time you see her she will know you are not some beta orbiter she can toy with and she will take you seriously.

The most important thing is to always make a good impression.
 

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SgtSplacker said:
The world is a small place, you may see this girl again a year from now.

Show your affection, give her a chance to bite, if it's not making you happy cut her azz off and keep living your life. Maybe next time you see her she will know you are not some beta orbiter she can toy with and she will take you seriously.

The most important thing is to always make a good impression.
She wasn't responding/reciprocating flirting/kino/innuendos. But I knew I made a good impression on her, so that's why I figure if I cut it off now, there will be a better shot later if we ever reconnect.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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teddy said:
She wasn't responding/reciprocating flirting/kino/innuendos. But I knew I made a good impression on her, so that's why I figure if I cut it off now, there will be a better shot later if we ever reconnect.
Yeah man, few things are better then going to a bar to pick up, seeing a girl you knew and she remembers something cool about your past. It's almost a sure thing...
 
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