"Why Women Dump the Guys Who Try the Hardest"

You paid for dinner. You drove. You said "whatever you want is fine" every single time. All the effort, no expectations.

And she left anyway — probably for a guy who makes her pick up the pizza.

Painful. Also predictable. Her mind quietly concludes that anything requiring zero effort from her is worth exactly zero. You became a free sample, and free samples get taken for granted.

The 22 Rules flip the dynamic. Small shifts that get her investing effort, money, and time in you — until SHE'S the one afraid of losing YOU.

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is internet dating becoming more socially acceptable?

pete101

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Where I am in the UK since Tinder came out last year, internet dating is slowly becoming more socially acceptable.. in the sense that it's much more socially acceptable than it was a year ago.

is this bad?

I feel like places like bars etc may not be as prevalent with single women anymore looking for guys.. and the internet dating virgins who have gone out the first time with someone from the internet (and it wasn't a nightmare) are more open to it.. thus having orbiters and options on tap (more so than they did before)
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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j.619

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Its the single worst thing to happen to women imo.

I see plenty of women going to bars and checking their OKC profiles there. These women are damaged permanently.
yep
 

DonGorgon

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95% of the women online only want 5% of the men online ... and this are the trick (men offering money for sex) the model dude and the guys offering drugs..lol... 95% of men struggle with online dating more that they do in real life
 

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I have done pretty well on POF, averaging getting laid by or on the third date, a new one about every month. My online game is getting better so the chicks I am fvcking are getting hotter.

It's not that hard.. I halfway think that if they find you attractive enough to meet you then as long as you don't act all AFC or a drunken tool, you can get the pvssy. Some of the stories I hear from women about the dudes they meet online are pretty amazing.. A bunch of clueless chumps.
 

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MOTU said:
I have done pretty well on POF, averaging getting laid by or on the third date, a new one about every month. My online game is getting better so the chicks I am fvcking are getting hotter.

It's not that hard.. I halfway think that if they find you attractive enough to meet you then as long as you don't act all AFC or a drunken tool, you can get the pvssy. Some of the stories I hear from women about the dudes they meet online are pretty amazing.. A bunch of clueless chumps.
Getting laid isn't necessarily an indicator of success.
 

"Nervous Around Beautiful Women? There's a Rule for That"

I could talk to any woman I wasn't attracted to. Charming, funny, relaxed. Then a gorgeous woman looked my way and I'd become a sweating, babbling mess.

The fix took me years to find and ten minutes to learn. Nervousness and excitement are the same physical state — pounding heart, adrenaline, flushed face. Your brain just picks the label. And you can pick a better one.

Rule 16 shows you how. You feel the nerves, relabel them as excitement, and let that energy pour out as enthusiasm. Women notice the guy radiating it. They always do.

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MtnMan

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Yewki said:
Getting laid isn't necessarily an indicator of success.
it is if that is your goal.

my goal with OLD is to get laid, so far....no success. Two dates this week, try try again.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Its the single worst thing to happen to women imo.

I see plenty of women going to bars and checking their OKC profiles there. These women are damaged permanently.
I've noticed more and more "hot" women coming onto POF in the last year. I imagine many of these women get 300-400 messages a day.

What Royal says is pretty much the truth. I have hardcore game. And even I can't seem to keep a POF/OKC/Tinder girl around past 3-5 bangs.

The allure of new c@ck, and new attention, and getting that rush over and over is too high....

The one exception is if you happen to find a girl who's new to it. I've semi-dated a few of them over the years.

But eventually; say... 5.... 10 years - when it's the real norm.... I expect there's going to be an even greater damaging effect on the potential of LTR. It will be a hookup culture; and there will be a lot more frustrated men out there.
 

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MtnMan said:
it is if that is your goal.

my goal with OLD is to get laid, so far....no success. Two dates this week, try try again.
If that's true, why aren't you messaging the bottom of the barrel? You could get laid pretty easily that way, right?
 
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