"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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is internet dating becoming more socially acceptable?

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Where I am in the UK since Tinder came out last year, internet dating is slowly becoming more socially acceptable.. in the sense that it's much more socially acceptable than it was a year ago.

is this bad?

I feel like places like bars etc may not be as prevalent with single women anymore looking for guys.. and the internet dating virgins who have gone out the first time with someone from the internet (and it wasn't a nightmare) are more open to it.. thus having orbiters and options on tap (more so than they did before)
 

"So, What Do You Do for Fun?"

She asks it casually, mid-sip. And you feel the floor open up, because the honest answer is work, gym, and a couple shows you're half-watching.

Women rarely say this out loud, but a man with a life is attractive before he says a word. The guy who spent Saturday deep-sea fishing and came back with photos and a story — he walks in already interesting.

The "22 Rules" pushed me to build a life worth talking about. Turns out the fastest way to be interesting to women is to be interested in your own life first.

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j.619

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Its the single worst thing to happen to women imo.

I see plenty of women going to bars and checking their OKC profiles there. These women are damaged permanently.
yep
 

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95% of the women online only want 5% of the men online ... and this are the trick (men offering money for sex) the model dude and the guys offering drugs..lol... 95% of men struggle with online dating more that they do in real life
 

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I have done pretty well on POF, averaging getting laid by or on the third date, a new one about every month. My online game is getting better so the chicks I am fvcking are getting hotter.

It's not that hard.. I halfway think that if they find you attractive enough to meet you then as long as you don't act all AFC or a drunken tool, you can get the pvssy. Some of the stories I hear from women about the dudes they meet online are pretty amazing.. A bunch of clueless chumps.
 

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MOTU said:
I have done pretty well on POF, averaging getting laid by or on the third date, a new one about every month. My online game is getting better so the chicks I am fvcking are getting hotter.

It's not that hard.. I halfway think that if they find you attractive enough to meet you then as long as you don't act all AFC or a drunken tool, you can get the pvssy. Some of the stories I hear from women about the dudes they meet online are pretty amazing.. A bunch of clueless chumps.
Getting laid isn't necessarily an indicator of success.
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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MtnMan

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Yewki said:
Getting laid isn't necessarily an indicator of success.
it is if that is your goal.

my goal with OLD is to get laid, so far....no success. Two dates this week, try try again.
 

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PairPlusRoyalFlush said:
Its the single worst thing to happen to women imo.

I see plenty of women going to bars and checking their OKC profiles there. These women are damaged permanently.
I've noticed more and more "hot" women coming onto POF in the last year. I imagine many of these women get 300-400 messages a day.

What Royal says is pretty much the truth. I have hardcore game. And even I can't seem to keep a POF/OKC/Tinder girl around past 3-5 bangs.

The allure of new c@ck, and new attention, and getting that rush over and over is too high....

The one exception is if you happen to find a girl who's new to it. I've semi-dated a few of them over the years.

But eventually; say... 5.... 10 years - when it's the real norm.... I expect there's going to be an even greater damaging effect on the potential of LTR. It will be a hookup culture; and there will be a lot more frustrated men out there.
 

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MtnMan said:
it is if that is your goal.

my goal with OLD is to get laid, so far....no success. Two dates this week, try try again.
If that's true, why aren't you messaging the bottom of the barrel? You could get laid pretty easily that way, right?
 
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