Is hypergamy so rampant that NFL stars & owners have to pressure message therapists for a rub & tug?

[MatureDJ]

I was reading this, and it got me interested:

Justin Tucker suspended by NFL for violating league’s personal conduct policy

Former Ravens kicker Justin Tucker was suspended by the league for violating the NFL’s personal conduct policy

www.sbnation.com

The suspension comes amidst serious accusations against the former Ravens kicker. In recent months, 16 massage therapists from eight different Baltimore-area spas accused Tucker of inappropriate sexual behavior. In a story that ran in the Baltimore Banner “several therapists said Tucker’s behavior was so egregious that they ended his sessions early or refused to work on him again.”

 

[BaronOfHair]

...“several therapists said Tucker’s behavior was so egregious that they ended his sessions early or refused to work on him again.”

End result of patronizing establishments staffed by Becky and Shaquanda, rather than those who keep nothing but Cambodian teens on the pay roll

Whose flesh the proprietor takes a cattle prod to, if they fail to express anything but gratitude for getting the opportunity to leave the slums of Phnom Phenh, for life The Grand Ol' Fitty

 

[BackInTheGame78]

More like the NFL players think rules don't apply to them since they are basically worshipped by the general public in the US

 

[SW15]

NFL players have high SMV.

The Justin Tucker case is an outlier.

Justin Tucker is a kicker and kickers are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of NFL players. However, they are important because a field goal kick can win or lose a game. Some Super Bowls have been decided by a field goal kick at the end of the game.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker is 6'1", an appealing height. He has also earned over $50 million in 10+ years in the NFL. He has a full head of hair too. He has had the magic "height, hair, money" combination that @Mike32ct cites. @Mike32ct 's "height, hair, money" combination has been cited as a key to success for older men. Tucker is now 35, getting to the age when "height, hair, money" would be relevant, but he had height, hair, and money going for him in his 20s.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

In general, a 6'1" male with high income/net worth is very sexually desirable in the conventional mating market.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

NFL players have high SMV.

The Justin Tucker case is an outlier.

Justin Tucker is a kicker and kickers are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of NFL players. However, they are important because a field goal kick can win or lose a game. Some Super Bowls have been decided by a field goal kick at the end of the game.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker is 6'1", an appealing height. He has also earned over $50 million in 10+ years in the NFL. He has a full head of hair too. He has had the magic "height, hair, money" combination that @Mike32ct cites. @Mike32ct 's "height, hair, money" combination has been cited as a key to success for older men. Tucker is now 35, getting to the age when "height, hair, money" would be relevant, but he had height, hair, and money going for him in his 20s.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

In general, a 6'1" male with high income/net worth is very sexually desirable in the conventional mating market.

Thank you ChatGPT

 

[CornbreadFed]

Most men will never be able to comprehend the life of a prodigy high smv male. These men do not think basic rules apply to them because they have been spoon fed attention and resources from society since childhood. I know plenty of really famous people and professional athletes personally and they start their journey from childhood.

 

[CornbreadFed]

NFL players have high SMV.

The Justin Tucker case is an outlier.

Justin Tucker is a kicker and kickers are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of NFL players. However, they are important because a field goal kick can win or lose a game. Some Super Bowls have been decided by a field goal kick at the end of the game.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker is 6'1", an appealing height. He has also earned over $50 million in 10+ years in the NFL. He has a full head of hair too. He has had the magic "height, hair, money" combination that @Mike32ct cites. @Mike32ct 's "height, hair, money" combination has been cited as a key to success for older men. Tucker is now 35, getting to the age when "height, hair, money" would be relevant, but he had height, hair, and money going for him in his 20s.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

In general, a 6'1" male with high income/net worth is very sexually desirable in the conventional mating market.

It’s not about options it’s about thinking you are gods gift and thinking every hot woman will bang you with little effort.

 

[BadBoy89]

NFL players have high SMV.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

You would think so, but unless the player is Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, I don’t think many girls know NFL players.

Given his height, 6’1, he doesn’t ”stand out” as an athlete like someone 6’4 and above would, The hair helps.

In this case, he has terrible game, I would say he’s tried to get with good looking young girls, and it hasn’t worked, so he goes to the quickest route,

Tom Brady is 47 and single, I mean he may want his freedom but it’s like WTF. Well, he did have sex Sydney Sweeney over the weekend, but still.

 

[CornbreadFed]

You would think so, but unless the player is Tom Brady or Patrick Mahomes, I don’t think many girls know NFL players.

Given his height, 6’1, he doesn’t ”stand out” as an athlete like someone 6’4 and above would, The hair helps.

Girls on OLD and social media are actually exposed to professional sports players. In addition, cleat chasers are specialized in hunting them down, so they know the specific venues to hunt them down. Yes, this guy might not stand out compared to Mahomes, but he definitely stands out compared to an average Joe especially in a used up HS/College social circle. John the backup WR on a NFL team is going to have at minimum surgeon/airline level clout with women, so he has a lot to work with.

 

[Solomon]

NFL players have high SMV.

The Justin Tucker case is an outlier.

Justin Tucker is a kicker and kickers are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of NFL players. However, they are important because a field goal kick can win or lose a game. Some Super Bowls have been decided by a field goal kick at the end of the game.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker is 6'1", an appealing height. He has also earned over $50 million in 10+ years in the NFL. He has a full head of hair too. He has had the magic "height, hair, money" combination that @Mike32ct cites. @Mike32ct 's "height, hair, money" combination has been cited as a key to success for older men. Tucker is now 35, getting to the age when "height, hair, money" would be relevant, but he had height, hair, and money going for him in his 20s.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

In general, a 6'1" male with high income/net worth is very sexually desirable in the conventional mating market.

Overanalysis the guy is a scumbag with clout with no morals and thought he could take advantage of his position to have women give him a rug and tug

It's very simple no need to get into his height and hair....that's incel speak

 

[Clockwerk50]

NFL players have high SMV.

The Justin Tucker case is an outlier.

Justin Tucker is a kicker and kickers are considered to be at the bottom of the food chain of NFL players. However, they are important because a field goal kick can win or lose a game. Some Super Bowls have been decided by a field goal kick at the end of the game.

Justin Tucker is the most accurate field goal kicker of all time and he has kicked the longest field goal of all time. That should help SMV.

Justin Tucker is 6'1", an appealing height. He has also earned over $50 million in 10+ years in the NFL. He has a full head of hair too. He has had the magic "height, hair, money" combination that @Mike32ct cites. @Mike32ct 's "height, hair, money" combination has been cited as a key to success for older men. Tucker is now 35, getting to the age when "height, hair, money" would be relevant, but he had height, hair, and money going for him in his 20s.

Justin Tucker should have had plenty of options for sex in the conventional mating market. I do not understand why he might have done what he has been accused of doing.

In general, a 6'1" male with high income/net worth is very sexually desirable in the conventional mating market.

When someone like Tucker, who already has height, money, and status, still seeks out the forbidden, it’s about transgression. People are drawn to the prohibited because it offers a rush, a sense of power over norms, and the thrill of doing what others wouldn’t dare.

He is not the first in the football industry that has been caught doing these practices. Deshaun Watson and Robert Kraft were also getting happy ending massages.

 

[The Duke]

Why did Diddy do what he did for his sexual gratification? He had all the money and status yet still took advantage of people using money, drugs, manipulation, and coercion to get it done.

These people are scumbags. They lack social skills, morals, and values.

The difference between rape and making love is salesmanship.... Aka social skills. That's most of it. Same reason some of you struggle to get laid and can't get 2nd dates.

 

[Solomon]

The difference between rape and making love is salesmanship.... Aka social skills. That's most of it. Same reason some of you struggle to get laid and can't get 2nd dates.

This is going to hurt some peoples feelings, but the longer I'm around these parts and read peoples post. There are patterns that pop up that you can't hide some people do not know how to talk to the opposite sex or have no clue.

 

[CornbreadFed]

This is going to hurt some peoples feelings, but the longer I'm around these parts and read peoples post. There are patterns that pop up that you can't hide some people do not know how to talk to the opposite sex or have no clue.

Too many guys are skipping key learning opportunities with women during adolescence and early adulthood. If you are 20 and haven’t even had a meaningful relationship yet then you are cooked unless you have Chad lite genetic potential.

 

[SW15]

Tom Brady is 47 and single, I mean he may want his freedom but it’s like WTF. Well, he did have sex Sydney Sweeney over the weekend, but still.

You made me aware of Tom Brady possibly smashing Sydney Sweeney this weekend.

Girls on OLD and social media are actually exposed to professional sports players. In addition, cleat chasers are specialized in hunting them down, so they know the specific venues to hunt them down. Yes, this guy might not stand out compared to Mahomes, but he definitely stands out compared to an average Joe especially in a used up HS/College social circle.

True.

Many women on swipe apps and ones active on social media in their 20s/early 30s have options with professional athletes. Professional athletes show up in their swipe queues and in their DMs.

Many of us are competing with pro athletes for pussie in the mating environment.

I have never seen a pro athlete at the bars where I've done approaches over the years. I have also never seen a pro athlete doing daygame in my city.

I think a lot of pro athletes now are trying to get women more on swipe apps and social media now as compared to real life. Swipe apps are hyper efficient for them and they can get good response rates in the DMs too.

Inside the 'Tinderization' of today's NBA

If you want to know why road teams are winning at historically great levels, take a look inside the NBA's new, tamer social scene.

www.espn.com

Regular men are competing with pro athletes, sometimes college athletes, and sometimes recent ex-college athletes for pussie.

John the backup WR on a NFL team is going to have at minimum surgeon/airline level clout with women, so he has a lot to work with.

I agree.

I have had a friend for many years who is a 6'4" former NCAA athlete in a country club sport. He wasn't even an athlete in a major sport and he put up a triple digit notch count. A good portion of his notches occurred in his 20s after graduation. The 'former NCAA athlete status' helped him get laid.

It’s not about options it’s about thinking you are gods gift and thinking every hot woman will bang you with little effort.

I think Tucker was looking to get easy sex.

Tucker has had a wife since 2015. He had enough skill to seduce a woman and retain her. He likely had other girlfriends before her as well.

The sexual misconduct allegations happened between 2012-2016. He was dating and had already been married during this period.

It is odd to me that these incidents didn't become publicly known before 2025.

I think he expected to get sex with little effort.

 

[MatureDJ]

I have never seen a pro athlete at the bars where I've done approaches over the years. I have also never seen a pro athlete doing daygame in my city.

I think a lot of pro athletes now are trying to get women more on swipe apps and social media now as compared to real life. Swipe apps are hyper efficient for them and they can get good response rates in the DMs too.

Inside the 'Tinderization' of today's NBA

If you want to know why road teams are winning at historically great levels, take a look inside the NBA's new, tamer social scene.

www.espn.com

I can remember years ago on Sunday evenings seeing some of the local NFL team players out at nightspots (after home games in the afternoon).

These guys don't approach - they get approached. And in the age of Tinder, they get swiped right.

It's OVER for NonProAthleteCels.

 

[MatureDJ]

Too many guys are skipping key learning opportunities with women during adolescence and early adulthood. If you are 20 and haven’t even had a meaningful relationship yet then you are cooked unless you have Chad lite genetic potential.

I think it's that all their sexual failures since adolescence, the frustration dogging them since puberty, have scarred them forever. They think they will never be a girl's erotic dream. They have been orphaned by the teenage loves they never had, causing an agonizing bitterness to fill their heart, with no redemption, no release. That's how it is.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I have never seen a pro athlete at the bars where I've done approaches over the years. I have also never seen a pro athlete doing daygame in my city.

They go to celeb named clubs and places like moxies where you either hire hot women to be around you or where the bros fraternize. You won’t catch them in lowkey smaller-medium cities so you need to go to LA, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas, NYC, Miami, Chicago, and etc.

 

[CornbreadFed]

I think it's that all their sexual failures since adolescence, the frustration dogging them since puberty, have scarred them forever. They think they will never be a girl's erotic dream. They have been orphaned by the teenage loves they never had, causing an agonizing bitterness to fill their heart, with no redemption, no release. That's how it is.

this definitely fuels their red pill rage machine lol.

 

[SW15]

You won’t catch them in lowkey smaller-medium cities so you need to go to LA, Houston, Dallas, Las Vegas, NYC, Miami, Chicago, and etc.

I am in Dallas and have gone out to many bars in Dallas over the years I've lived in Dallas.

I saw former Dallas Mavericks (pro basketball) owner and Shark Tank investor Mark Cuban at a Dallas bar many years ago.

I can remember years ago on Sunday evenings seeing some of the local NFL team players out at nightspots (after home games in the afternoon).

These guys don't approach - they get approached. And in the age of Tinder, they get swiped right.

It's OVER for NonProAthleteCels.

It's not over for men who aren't pro athletes. @BPH was never a pro athlete and he has had sex with 101 women. I have had sex with enough women to put me in an upper tier for men on lifetime sex counts.

If a man is 6'0"+ and physically attractive, he can have a sex life that is comparable to a pro athlete.

My 6'4", former NCAA athlete in a smaller sport friend put up a triple digit notch count before marriage. He had to approach women at bars, unlike pro athletes. He was more into bar approaching than anything else. He barely did online game and never once approached strangers in a non-bar venue.

It's good information to know that pro athlete males in the pre-internet era and early days of the internet didn't have to approach at bars.

Pro athletes can be more efficient with swiping than they ever were at the bars.