"She Wants a Man, Not a Boy"

You asked her if she wanted to grab coffee. Then you asked if the time worked. Then you asked if the place was okay. Then you asked if she'd prefer tea.

Four questions. Four chances for her to say no. Four signals that you're terrified of making a decision.

Plan it. Pick the place. Pick the time. Tell her where to meet you. She'll either show up or she won't.

Either way, you look like a man instead of a scared little boy.

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Is hiding the same as lying?

JonnyD123

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This girl I had been seeing told me about these two guy "friends," which I had no problem her talking to because I had platonic female friends (none of which I had ever slept with).

Fast forward 2 months and it comes out she has slept with both of them, multiple times, prior to us ever meeting. She failed to mention it because she "didn't think it was important," but I also failed to ask.

You think her not bringing that up from the get go is the equivalent of lying about it?
 

"She's Out of Your League"

You've said it a hundred times. Maybe a thousand. And every time you say it, you train your brain to freeze the next time she walks into the room.

Leagues are a myth invented by guys who are scared of women.

She's a person. She has bad breath in the morning. She picks songs she can't sing in the shower. She overthinks her own texts.

Walk over. Say something. The league dissolves the second you open your mouth.

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This girl I had been seeing told me about these two guy "friends," which I had no problem her talking to because I had platonic female friends (none of which I had ever slept with).

Fast forward 2 months and it comes out she has slept with both of them, multiple times, prior to us ever meeting. She failed to mention it because she "didn't think it was important," but I also failed to ask.

You think her not bringing that up from the get go is the equivalent of lying about it?
Yeah, she lied to you. You don't just sleep with a friend(s) multiple times.
 

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Lying by omission.

Not really a difference between that and blatantly lying, the intent to deceive (or mask deception) is the same.
 

"I just moved here from Florida."

That sentence contains at least five follow-up questions she WANTS you to ask. Where in Florida? What brought you here? How long have you been in the area? What do you miss? How does it compare to here?

She handed them to you on a silver platter. And you said, "Oh cool. I come here every week. I love this band. Ummm... pretty crowded tonight."

She smiled politely. Nodded. And never texted you back.

I was that guy for years. Talking too much. Listening too little. Panicking about my next sentence while she was literally feeding me the answers.

Then I found 22 rules that fixed the whole thing. Rule number one: shut up and listen. She'll tell you exactly what to say.

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JonnyD123

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Why does it matter?

Every woman you meet will have sexual experience unless she is 12. Get used to it.
Did you even read what I wrote? I didn't expect her to be daddy's little virgin angel.
 

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Did you even read what I wrote? I didn't expect her to be daddy's little virgin angel.
I did.

I'm trying to tell you that its silly to worry about a woman's sexual history and who she slept with and who she didn't. That is one area where I don't ask and don't tell. Women will never be honest about that with you anyway.
 

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This girl I had been seeing told me about these two guy "friends," which I had no problem her talking to because I had platonic female friends (none of which I had ever slept with).

Fast forward 2 months and it comes out she has slept with both of them, multiple times, prior to us ever meeting. She failed to mention it because she "didn't think it was important," but I also failed to ask.

You think her not bringing that up from the get go is the equivalent of lying about it?

You're displaying insecurity. This will drive her interest down.

She has a past. You have a past. Dating someone for 2 months, she doesn't have to tell you anything she doesn't want to and neither do you.
 

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This girl I had been seeing told me about these two guy "friends," which I had no problem her talking to because I had platonic female friends (none of which I had ever slept with).

Fast forward 2 months and it comes out she has slept with both of them, multiple times, prior to us ever meeting. She failed to mention it because she "didn't think it was important," but I also failed to ask.

You think her not bringing that up from the get go is the equivalent of lying about it?
she was certainly lying to you, the problem is that she wanted to hide the nature of her relationship with those guys, not that she banged them.

it's a huge red flag that she wants to keep it secret from you what she has done with the guys she spends time with
 

"The Coffee Shop Girl You Never Spoke To"

You've replayed it a hundred times. She stood three feet away, scrolling her phone. You had an opening. You composed the perfect line — after she was gone.

For all you know, she's married now. To some guy who said something. Anything.

Openers are cheap. Almost any sentence works when it's delivered within three seconds. The expensive part is the standing there, drafting and deleting, while the window quietly closes.

The "22 Rules" stripped out my hesitation. What to open with, how to keep it alive, and the one habit that costs guys more women than anything else: waiting for perfect.

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It's always safe to assume that if a chick as a close male friend at some point she fvcked him, or he wants to fvck her. This sort of thing does not bother me because I always expect this from women... but if this bugs you then dump her, because she isn't fun for you anymore.

Bottom-line when a chick STOPS being entertaining and STARTS being work, dump her, even if you think you love her. Life is too short to worry about sh!t like this.
 

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It's always safe to assume that if a chick as a close male friend at some point she fvcked him, or he wants to fvck her.

Bottom-line when a chick STOPS being entertaining and STARTS being work, dump her, even if you think you love her. Life is too short to worry about sh!t like this.
Any normal guy who is willing to invest time in a women wants to sleep with her - ever! Absolutely right.

Like I say: bring fun to my life or fcuk off!
 
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